Navigating Faith, Politics, AI, & the End Times: A Conversation with Mike Lindell and David Pasqualone

Politics and Religion with Mike Lindell and David Pasqualone | E3 May 5, 2025

David Pasqualone: Hello, friends. Welcome to this week’s episode of Politics and Religion. I’m David Pasqualone, and this is our good friend Mike Lindell joining us today. Mike, how’s it going?

Mike Lindell: It’s been quite a week. I got a lot to report, I’ll tell you, but it’s it’s great to be here.

David Pasqualone: All right, well, let’s get started.

What’s been going on in America, in your life, in your world? What’s happening?

Mike Lindell: Well, as we know, we’re coming to the last two days of the sale of our $25 sheets that we’re supposed to go to the box stores. Remember, as the trucks were leaving, somebody made a phone call, canceled these orders.

So you guys used promo code, “remarkable” for that $25 any size. Split Kings, Kings, queens, whatever. Once they’re gone, they’re gone. And we are gonna be, and if that’s gonna happen before Wednesday, maybe Thursday morning at the latest, but you guys get ’em out as fast as you can.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And and ladies and gentlemen, like Mike’s saying, I got four pairs that we might get a knock on the door during this interview.

[00:01:00] They’re being delivered today that I got four sets and they’re going in each of our rooms, so I’m super excited.

Mike Lindell: Right on. That’s awesome. And these are, these are the best sheets ever, everybody. Best Bed sheets. The other thing I, you know, so I’ve been trying to, you know, get that and we’ve got the new product at my, at my pillow with the Rev seven Energy drink.

Talk about that in a while. But it’s been quite a week for me because I had to, you know, even though I’m so distracted with the attacks on my pillow to get that, she, she, you know, to get that from from protecting him. My employees and such. I had to get to dc I was invited to the National Day of Prayer this last week.

And while I was there, I had a meeting with the president. So it’s been, and then remember everybody I have with Linde tv, I have two White House correspondence. And so I got to meet my team there and we so, so much to report, but I’ll start with the. With the National Day of Prayer we got in there and all the [00:02:00] media was there, of course.

And, and I was I actually did a a part of a show from there. And of course, the media hit on that. Mike Linde was filling pills in the Rose Garden, you know, and, promo code. Remarkable. Everybody, but yeah. Right.

Speaker 3: But,

Mike Lindell: but anyway, they they, and they’re, the president of course, used his new executive order, his new committee or faith committee basically was inside the White House.

So you guys, this was really dear to me or important to me. It took me back time. I was in the rose was, was back march of. 2020 right before the China virus, everybody, and went right before that. And remember, if you all look it up, you can check it out. I got up on stage and, and I said, and I read this this short speech it said, and it said, God has been God has, we have taken God.

A nation has turned his back on God. We have taken God out of our schools. [00:03:00] I said, God has given us, I said, we need to pray for grace for such a time as this and get God back in our schools. Get back in the word, get back with our families. Well, here it. Forward to from 2020 March to now. Five, what is it, five years later, 2025.

And here’s the president. Remember when I did that speech? I’m sorry, let’s backtrack. When I did that speech, I did 110 interviews back in 20, 25 days in a row. Because the whole world, the media is going, you don’t mix church and state, you don’t mix you know, politics and and the word of God. How dare you, Mike Lindell.

How dare you do this? And because they knew the president had nothing to do with it. I had turned to him and said, do you mind if I say something off the cuff? He said, sure, go ahead. I got done. He said, I did not know Mike was gonna say that. He’s a friend of mine. Thank you, Mike. That was it. Other than this was the number one story in the world that someone spoke out about God from the Rose Garden, [00:04:00] right?

So here we are five years later. Same place, same channel. And here’s the president of the United States talking about Jesus Christ and God, and, and a committee, a faith committee inside the White House in. So, I mean, isn’t it that, that’s just amazing to me that, you know, what has changed? And you know what, I really believe the biggest part of that is people seen how horrific things were the last four years and, and they’re just open to it.

And I, I don’t even think the media attacked, I haven’t, I haven’t seen it this last week, how bad the media actually attacked a great president, David, if they did attack him for, for putting God in the White House. I don’t know. Have you seen anything?

David Pasqualone: No, I mean, there’s always that mockery and that backbiting and that.

Hypocritical attitude for people. But anybody who says a separation of church and state, they’re illiterate because that’s [00:05:00] a lie, right? Like we are a nation formed on Judeo-Christian values. One nation

Mike Lindell: under God.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, exactly. So it’s like anybody who makes those comments, it shows they’re either a liar to me and they’re trying to manipulate people, or they’re absolutely ignorant because we’ve, God gives us free will.

The Constitution gives us free will, but we’re also a nation founded on. Biblical doctrine, and that is something that can be talked about openly. Now, the government should never control it, but that doesn’t mean you remove it completely. And kids learn to read for years out of the Bible, right? So it’s just like I’m tracking with you.

But when I’ve heard people talk about President Trump, you know, they’ll. They’ll say whatever they can, you know, to, to discredit the man. But it’s like, with everything going on, you got these congressmen and I, I was just talking to my good friend and I was asking the question like, are these people truly evil?

I. And [00:06:00] just trying to mislead the world. Or are they really that blinded and confused by darkness that they believe what they’re saying. Like, you know, right. This is outside of the us but did you hear the Canadian? They’re, they’re running for office and the one Canadian is like, it doesn’t matter that our, basically he’s saying it doesn’t matter that we’re wasting all our money and our country might be starving soon.

We’re giving money to the Middle East and to Ukraine and countries like that. Did you hear that? No. Oh, exactly. No

Mike Lindell: idea. But it’s, it’s so nonsensical. That’s craziness. You know? It is. It’s absolutely insane. It’s insane. And it, and I’ll tell you this is where, but the stuff like that, this is what’s uniting everybody.

This is what’s uniting people. And you know, when I say uniting people, the more people see this nonsensical. Some of it even completely insane stuff that’s going on. It brings everybody to one spot of common sense, this bucket of common sense. I just wanna, I just won a couple [00:07:00] arguments with a couple of my relatives that are very, very liberal. Very liberal, and, and I actually won the argument, or at least it wasn’t really an argument. I just, I just talked for probably half hour, 45 minutes and told them where everything, where I’m coming from with our election platforms and stuff brought ’em completely to this bucket of common sense.

And it was like opening their eyes. I’m going, but I guess when people see they get brainwashed so long by, you know. The media, the mainstream media, and.

Even, even some, even a lot of the social media, I mean, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg says he doesn’t do it anymore, but of course he does. But they’re getting, you’re feeding the stuff out. It’s more, you know what it is really, David, it’s more what networks and what they don’t say than what they say. If you’ve been brainwashed for so long and now you have things out that the other side, so to speak.[00:08:00]

The truth, if you never hear it, you don’t, you’re stuck in this spot. You’re stuck in this spot going, Hey, this is, you know, well this makes sense. We’ll help these countries overseas, we’ll help these other places. And how you can spin a narrative. You, you get everyone realize how, how powerful media is and, and marketing is when you convince, thought, you convinced a whole nation border.

Pour in this fentanyl and the cartels and somehow that that’s a good thing because you know what? These people deserve a place to come in illegally and take all of our resources and everything. It’s an invasion. But yet you convinced for like you painted this picture that it, for some reason you’re helping people.

You know, but you’re not helping our citizens. You know, this was, my eyes were, I really opened eyes when I took tapes from when I was in Chicago and I interviewed all these, all these former [00:09:00] Democrats blacks and Hispanics that were there, and all of ’em were switching to Donald Trump before the election.

And, and I, we asked them why the number one reason was UMS in, and they were taking all their. Including housing, including addiction, treat money, everything. And you know, there’s. You know, common sense is what, where it is and, you know it, it just comes down to common sense and I think, you know, that’s what I tell people.

You read all these things. Another things too, though, David, I think they do these things that they’ll put out in the news are so bombastic and so crazy when you go back to trans and teach it in school. All this craziness. You would’ve never thought you’d see the day men and women’s sports and all this stuff.

You go back 20 years going, come on, that’s impossible. But I think they do a lot of [00:10:00] this stuff so everybody gets so upset and go and points over here and going, you’re not gonna do that. And they, they spend all their time fighting over here that the things that are so important down here might get overlooked if it wasn’t for.

Our great president and and he knows it. You know, everybody look over here. Like for instance, when I’m fighting for our election platforms, that’s been over and over and. And is, you know, everybody look over here. This is more important. No, the most important thing is we need to have elections, not selections.

If you don’t have fair elections, it’s over everybody. It’s over. We don’t have, if we don’t secure our elections you know, I was just talking to my, like I say, my in-laws there. About where the, the country is and all this stuff. And there, and one of the things got brought up was tariffs. And I go, I go, you know what I said, did you know Canada tariffs bedding products they [00:11:00] have ever since Auga put in there.

I swear it was against my pillow, but he put it all bedding products. So had this 25% tariff going into all companies in the United States. Where’s the balance there? Right. And yeah, we’re not putting billboards

David Pasqualone: up in his country and he did ruin his nation. Yeah, that’s,

Mike Lindell: yeah. He did ruin his nation.

That’s exactly right. And so, you know, I tell pe you know, people, it’s like they have I think eyes are getting more and more open every day and but I’ll tell you. Where we’re going. We talked about artificial intelligence. I was, they were talking about, you know, these trucks now driving with no drivers and all these different things.

But if you wanted to, you know, frame someone now you could, you could have me on here, like on this podcast and you can change my words there or whatever. And wouldn’t, people wouldn’t even know it. You could all kind of stuff. This new.[00:12:00]

By the people. These are gonna be the people that are making the rules to regulate this technology. Or it’s over. I mean, you, you know, you, you know what I mean? It’s scary. It’s scary stuff. You know, you look back to the movie, I was, I was, I. Out there. They kid me, they’ll call me. You’re like the John Connors of our era.

You know, the, from the movie, the Terminator.

Speaker 3: Yeah.

Mike Lindell: You know, when, when he, when he got back and got rid of the machines before they took over everything, and for me, of course it’s voting machines, but there’s a little truth to that if you don’t regulate. We’re going. You know, I just seen a company the other day, robots making robots you know, know robots, making robots, everybody.

I mean, that’s pretty bizarre.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, and

Mike Lindell: you know,

David Pasqualone: a lot of what you’re talking about ties right into the Bible, [00:13:00] and it’s scary because we don’t know all the details, right. But we know the end. And in Revelation it talks about how there’ll be a mark in the right hand or the forehead, the mark of the beast.

Right. And for years there’s been companies experimenting with putting chips in your hand that can be scanned. And just like you said, how do you know this is David Pasqualone? And you’re Mike Lindell. If somebody’s watching a, I mean, you look at the Marvel movies, right? It looks like that’s so real. It looks like real.

So real bulk is the real, right, but it’s not. It’s all fake. It’s all digital. We’re getting to the point where the fakes are so good. I believe that that’s one approach Shane’s gonna use to say, Hey, the, the government’s gonna say to protect you, you are gonna be marked and nobody can copy this. So it’s unique.

That’s right. That’s right. And then it’s gonna be like the Covid vaccine, you take it or we’re cutting you off. And how many [00:14:00] people crumbled? Hopefully, I hope if you crumble to the Covid vaccine, I hope you wake up and don’t crumble to the mark of the beast. Because if you believe the Bible, it says in the Bible that when the intents happen, it may be tomorrow, it may be a hundred years from now, but they will happen.

And when they do, we’re gonna be forced to take a mark or to be banned from society or killed. It’s all in the Bible. Mm-hmm. Right. Absolutely. But that AI you’re talking about, I think is a huge, huge catalyst towards it personally. What do you think about that? I.

Mike Lindell: A hundred percent It is. And and by the way, do you guys know that there was a time when I it was I called the vaccine, the mark of the beast back in the day when that first funeral was coming out.

I go, I go, it’s the mark of the bee now. They took it, the media took that and the article came out in New York City and it was immediately. There was like two or three that came out right away. Mike Lindell says this, they [00:15:00] scrubbed it from the internet. Everybody, you can’t find that article anymore, or even the ones that copied it.

You know why? Because people would’ve read it and people would’ve actually, a lot of ’em would’ve not taken the vaccine because I said that, and this is how they go. Hey, even this isn’t worth bashing Mike Lindell because it will actually work the other way on it. You know? You follow me? Yeah. And and that’s exactly right.

You go back to, I really believe you know, the, it will be those things are, well, I’ll tell you I’ll tell you an example. It’s about six years ago. When this before all the election stuff, and I was this before the shopping channels QVC and such canceled my pillow, like all the box stores. And I was flying to Penn or to Pennsylvania all the time to go on there and flying commercial everywhere.

And anyway, I get to, I’ll never forget. Getting to the airport there in Pennsylvania and I was, and I always had [00:16:00] flew first class just to be able to get on quicker and not spend so much time sitting at the airport. It wasn’t, I don’t care if I first class or code, but it was a timing thing is all it was.

So anyway, I get there and the people are all the way up now. This is when this is when Obama was in, it was before, I’ll say. So all the way up, backed up and I’m gonna miss my plane. I ran all the way up to the front and they have one person there and they’re making people put their thumb thumbs on it and taking a thumbprint and, and I go, what are you doing?

And they go we are, this is a pre-check and I go, well, what are you checking it against? It doesn’t even make sense. I said, are you people’s IDs? And I go, they were just gathering information. Okay? This is what my mind, I go. You only have one of these here. I mean, it was like a bottleneck and nobody could get through.

You put your thumb there and well, if, and if you didn’t put your thumb there, you weren’t allowed to [00:17:00] pass through, to go through security. Right? So, and I go, where? And, and I go, well, I’m gonna miss my plane. This is crazy. So I make a big, big stink about it. I’m going and they bring me to, I said, I.

My flight wrong, so I didn’t miss the plane. But then he turns to, I turned to him and I said, how many people have complained today that amidst their fight and stood in this long lie like cattle and I, and he goes, Mike, just you. And I go, you gotta be kidding me. I said, I said people are that okay? We’ll just do it.

You know, six machines. He goes, I don’t know. This guy knew nothing about why the Obama administration put him in there. Now I. I get to Minneapolis and there’s a guy standing there and he is putting his thumb on there. This is a, a worker putting his thumb on there, and all [00:18:00] it did was put a directional arrow.

You either go right or left. So it was just, it didn’t mean nothing. His thumb didn’t mean nothing. It was conditioning you because everyone, you went to an airport, you were gonna have to have this. So, you know, just like Walt Disney or Disney started this, when you go there and stick your thumb in there Yeah.

Gathering information. So at that time, I mean, I flipped out and they, they now they shut it down everybody. But now here I am. How many years later, just go to an airport. Every airport you come in. Remember everyone complained about that. They didn’t wanna do the eye recognition thing. What are you doing every flight you’re on now they take, they don’t just get your thumbprint, they take a picture of you.

Yeah. Every single flight. So, you know, this is just, and it’s gonna be just like you said, it’s gonna be if you don’t take the mark it’s, this is for your own protection. This is for your own protection. You, you’re a hundred percent right David.

David Pasqualone: And the thing too is it’s a desensitization [00:19:00] and these are Hitler tactics.

These have been used since the beginning of time. Ladies and gentlemen think about this, especially people in Mike and i’s generation. If somebody told you they’re gonna put a device in your, on your person that tracks you and that listens to your conversations. Right. If you would’ve told them to go screw themselves in 18 languages, right, you would’ve been like, forget about it.

No way I’d do that. And now you and I, Mike, have joked openly on the show. We say how Zuckerberg is listening and all these businesses are Yeah. Well, here.

Mike Lindell: Hey, hey, hey, Kim Cook. Are you hearing this? You know, yeah. I mean, there, it’s right there. It’s in your hand. I, and now you tell, you can track, you can track your, your, your family members.

You can track your, you know, anything you want with this. A little piece, you know, tracking them. Everything in the Bible there has been, has come true. You know, money will become obsolete. That’ll be next thing. You know, [00:20:00] do you know there’s a lot of places now where they won’t accept cash. You know that everybody,

David Pasqualone: I actually was at, I was in Boston at the Boston Garden or TD Garden, whatever they call it now, and I was watching a Bruins game recently and the lady at the counter said, we won’t take cash.

Cash. And I was like, that’s wrong. I actually said. That’s wrong. That’s just wrong. I said, I’m not, I know you’re just working here, but I said, there’s such a bigger picture that this ties into. Mm-hmm. And I said, I’m not buying food here, and I, I’m one out of the million that’s gonna say no, but no, I walked away and would not buy food there.

But, Right. It’s a huge problem. And we don’t have time or the, I don’t even know. Yeah. I mean, like for every one thing you and I notice and our, and our listeners notice. There’s so much more depth in the plan. Satan, you know, he’s not stupid and he has a plan. Now he’s not gonna win, but he has a plan that’s smarter than [00:21:00] me.

That’s why I’m glad I have God. I just follow God and I’m safe. But like I remember one of the big things that nobody, it didn’t seem like anybody reacted to was when Bill Clinton was president. And he took our taxpayer money. Do you remember all the converter boxes, the TV to make everybody digital for an emergency?

Right? That was such bull crap. Everything that man does, it’s like instead of the minus thumb turn, it green. His kills it turns it corrupt and kills it. And this dude is paying our taxpayer money, billions of dollars to convert everybody’s television so they can track everything we do it. All times, like there has to be even in the most.

Liberal person if they were being just objective and using that common sense. Who was it? Thomas Payne. You know, during the Revolutionary War, he wrote the pamphlet Common Sense. I think in every generation we’re like, what is going on here? But we’ve been desensitized. You and me, we have [00:22:00] cell phones. We’ve said, I’ll trade the convenience for a map and a phone and a camera for you tracking me, even though I know it right.

But Google Nest, you know the, the te things on the wall, they got caught. You, you could probably still Google this, but did you hear about how years ago they put microphones in there and not only did they have microphones in there, they weren’t on the engineering schematics, so they were a hundred percent sneaking them in.

And people started finding them. So all this stuff is in conspiracy theory, it’s real. And going back it’s real. Yeah. Going back to what you’re saying, you’re the only person that day that mentioned the thumbprint. That just shows how right desensitized we are as a nation.

Mike Lindell: Yeah, it’s like sheep, you know, I’m going, I, I couldn’t believe it.

And that no one had said anything. And, and you’re exactly right. And they get you on convenience. I wanna tell you, you know, the, the chip, the chip that that they have many companies, but there’s. One in Wisconsin, where [00:23:00] I believe it’s one of the first ones. They put it underneath your skin and they used it in vending machines.

All it wasn, that’s for their company. How convenient. You don’t have to dig a dollar out, you just click on your company. I mean, are you kidding me? Well, you know, my friend and I, back in the day, I had seen the movie about the mark of the Beast in the 1970s, a movie at our church. They showed it and a thief in the night.

It scared me. No, I can’t remember what it was called, but it might, it might’ve been. You’ve been left behind. Was that

David Pasqualone: creepy music in a good way? There was that music you’ve been left behind.

Mike Lindell: It could be, but any, it could have been that movie. But anyway, I always thought of these chips and that everyone taking this mark that it would be some kind of a chip.

Well, my friend and I were going to, we were gonna buy os was in the, in the 1980s. And I decided not to because they had told me that’s in. And so I decided not to [00:24:00] do that, but I just and my friend, he ended up buying all these ostrich eggs and he, he pulled them out one day and they all fell and cracked.

I felt bad for him, but that’s just a side story. It was horrible that they but they, what, what saved me, or I would’ve lost a lot of money too. There was, because of that, that ship bugged me. And then but I watched things. One of the things I, I believe it says in the Bible, you know, money will become or whatever.

You guys look at it right now, or money, you’re not using physical money. At one time they did a study on this and what was keeping the actual currency was, was organized crime and you know, cartels, anything you had to pay cash for that you don’t want trap. That was why we still had money because they had much power as the evil, evil, having enough power.

You know, they can trade currency well for evil. But so because realize everybody, when you have your account and once you have the market, if there is no more money that can be used, they know everything about you. They know how much money you have, how much you’re [00:25:00] worth, what you spent, every dime on everything, which they know most that now, but here would be that.

So you couldn’t. So think about that. How would you buy drugs or how would you buy something that’s illegal? And, and by the way, that might be even a way they sell you on the mark. Hey, you know, these people won’t be able to buy illegal things anymore because, we’ll, you know, you’ll have, everything will be secure.

We know that you didn’t commit that crime. You, you follow me? It’ll almost be like it reversed. But we’ll, they’ll always make it

David Pasqualone: look, they’ll always make it look good that they’ll take the 10% that could be good. And that’s the shiny wrapper and the inside, 90% rotten.

Mike Lindell: Right. Brought That’s exactly right, because they’re gonna get you on safety.

You know, for a while there it was safety, convenience, safety. Yep. And for a while there it was, you know you know, track your dog if you’ve lost your dog, well, you know, now it’s your children. And you know, and we all take it with us. And I, I can’t think of anyone. Why do you think they were given all those [00:26:00] illegals to everybody?

Phones at the border. Remember that in Texas? Yeah. They’re giving everybody phones. All the illegals, you know, I mean, gimme a break. You know what, it’s, it’s unbelievable. But the, but you know, that’s what I’ve said where I, you know, God’s given us grace. We’re in the best kind to be alive. This has did everybody and to.

Given grace for more time so we can get more people, more believers, more people in to get to get more people saved for eternity. And you know, the I, and I wanna stress before we run out of time. I really believe the case that I have coming up you guys is it’s the first case with the machine companies.

I was telling Dave before the show, everybody, and I told the president about this when I was in in the White House last week of all on, on February 4th, 2021. Everybody. Smart Medic sued Fox News, which was the [00:27:00] start of Lawfare in this country that hadn’t been used in a large way since 19, or since 1792.

Speaker 3: Yep.

Mike Lindell: Okay. And what, what I mean by lawfare then? All these machine voting machine companies are, are, or anyone spun off from them, sued over 65, I believe it’s upwards of 70. Entities and companies. So all these went out. What was it to do? Silence. Everybody. Don’t talk bad about these machines. You better not.

Or you could end up like Mike Lindell, we’ll attack your company. Or end up like Tina Peters in prison for nine years. You better not talk, right? And we’re gonna destroy you financially. Now, everybody, every single one of those cases, every one. Has been settled so far out of court by insurance companies, including the Big Fox one, because why?

Because the insurance companies, they don’t care. They don’t wanna [00:28:00] spend the money to go get to the truth. They wanna just sell it. It’s for them. It’s about not, you know, not losing enough all this money. They don’t care if it’d be win or lose to get the truth out, and neither does the individual. They’re just happy, they ha have insurance.

Or you could point to Mike Mendell, boy, at least I’m not Mike Mendell, that, you know, his, his fortune’s gone. It’s, you know, he put it all out there and, but I’m telling you, everybody that’s just fine because on June 2nd. This next month here starts, I, what I believe will be one of the most important trials ever in this country.

And it’s the significance of it. It’s it’s one of the, one of the guys that worked for one of the machine companies and it’s going to jury trial. This is a jury. I will be there every day. Testify and people say, are.

Finally, you know, I’m gonna have Lyell TV there, of course, every day. But we hope, I’ve been [00:29:00] telling everyone I was just at the White House. I told the Daily Mail today. I said, you guys wanna actually report some instead of worrying about what the president I talked about, which by the way, was getting Tina Peters out of prison.

And of course the media will spin that. I just interviewed with the Daily Mail. They’re gonna spin it somehow. But I told that guy that. You know, the biggest outlet in the world. I said, why don’t you come and write the story you guys, instead of attacking me, you know, the American dream going from a crack addict to, to the successful, huge company.

And and when God set me free from addiction and being saved in all this, instead of attacking me, and then the us, you know, made company instead of attacking. Why, why don’t you go after you come to this trial and actually cover it, do your job as journalists and come and cover this trial? I mean, I mean, I don’t know if it’ll happen, David, but I have my, I can see, I don’t even think the attack media, if they come there to attack it, you know?

That [00:30:00] works. That works for me. You know what? You can’t, you know, and my, I’m just hoping the judge doesn’t say no. There’ll be no cameras inside. Well, he would only be doing that for, she would only be doing that for one reason. To hide what’s actually going on in this trial from the public. So all you’re getting is soundbites coming outta there, or lies, you know.

So anyway, this is so important. Everybody. It needs to be followed. It’s coming up. It’s gonna be huge, and it’s gonna, and we’re gonna put all kinds of marketing behind it just to make the awareness that, hey, you can watch it every day. And people will finally hear the truth. Am I worried about what 12 jurors say?

No. I can only keep saying what I know and what I, you know, I’m not gonna change. My lawyers wanna do all this prep. I go, I don’t need to be prepped. You know, I’ll listen to, but you know, I just say it like it is. I’m not gonna hold anything back. You know, if anything that you know, if anything, the judge is not gonna like my two hour answers for a simple question.

David Pasqualone: [00:31:00] Yeah, well there’s a lot of data and everybody’s trying to skirt around facts, but two plus two is always four. And once you can prove that, hey look, huge security bridges, right? Like yeah, it’s a combination lock with magic marker. The codes run on the outside of the door. I mean, like, I mean, you got real issues with these machines, so hopefully, yeah.

We’ll just pray the truth comes out and that’s it. And then I do have some question though. I mean, there’s so many kangaroo courts right now, even Trump, he went up and got nailed on charges, the stupid, ridiculous stuff, and everybody’s saying, oh, you know, the, the, like, that’s the thing that’s so crazy about our, our, the liberals right now.

And they’re not going. To jail or not being held accountable. Like I had somebody tell on a social media feed for me the other day, like, Trump authorized feminine products for all inmates in prison. I. That’s like a piece of truth twisted. It’s, yeah, for female [00:32:00] inmates, not for guys. Guys don’t need tampons.

So they were trying to make this thing like, well, oh, Joe Biden didn’t do anything in his administration standing up for transgender. Look, Trump did it too. I’m like, no, he didn’t. And yes, Joe Biden is an idiot and he’s not an idiot idiot. He’s corrupt. So, so it’s like, but when it comes to this trial. You know when God is forced, nobody can be against us, but we don’t know how things are gonna go.

So do you have concerns or does your attorney have concerns that you’re gonna get a fair trial? It’s gonna be a kangaroo court? What are your thoughts? Well,

Mike Lindell: here, well, here, here. First of all, everybody remember. I’m stood for defaming these, these voting machine companies, like it was all in elaborate marketing scheme using promo codes.

So my pillow could make a lot of money. My pillow has been decimated. They’ve lost hundreds of millions of dollars, and I’m a pretty good marketer. I’m going, well, why would I keep digging if if it’s hurting the company that bad? I also told off the judge, [00:33:00] everybody, this is Judge Wang. Lemme give you a little background and I’ll, my concern, you’ve all seen where I I called the lawyers in depositions an a-hole. I did that and then they, they leaked that out. He called my pillow. S lumpies went after my employees. And it, you know, it takes, I don’t swear it takes a lot from get me in, but, well, they thought, well, we’ll leak this out to the public.

Michael looked this Christian man that he, that he got upset. This will ruin him. Well, you know, rubbish, they, you know, they everyone backfired on him. ’cause everyone knows how upset I was with him that, you know, you can attack me fine when you go after my employees. My products. I’m very passionate about that.

I invented a pillow, I invented, you know, how do you invent a pill? Well, I got a patent on it, Tom, you know, and anyway, during that time, you gotta realize everybody, this is what happened. In that case, they, I, I was sure on the steps of the capital in Colorado, I was served on the steps of the [00:34:00] Colorado.

Steps of Colorado, and I believe it was the spring of 22. Could have been 23, but let’s say 22. So in the summer there, and I never read, I just thought it was another lawsuit by one of the voting machine companies. I actually thought it was just dominion, so I didn’t read it. I put it on the pile.

I’ve been sued so many times, I just threw it on the pile, right? So it’s on the pile and I never read it. So I turn it into the attorneys, you know, here’s the, here’s some more now. Nine months go by, 10 months go by. Okay. Well, this case was sued by an individual from the machine company. The guy’s name is Eric Kuer.

I can put it out there. Eric, Eric Kuer. Now, the night before my deposition, I don’t know who this guy is. I never did anything against Eric Kuer. I had nothing to do with this guy. I don’t know how he’s even involved. I know nothing about him, but I read the case. Okay, so I read the case to everybody and I am [00:35:00] furious because it’s like if you read a case against you, David, and you weren’t even at the scene, you know what I mean?

You, I’m a.

Unbelievable. So I get in to my lawyers and their lawyers are there for my deposition. I pulled my lawyers in the other room. I said, it’s the most frivolous thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I said, I don’t know this guy. I don’t know anything about it. So now get this. I said, why didn’t you guys put in for a dismissal when this came in?

And, and they, you know what they said? Well, Mike, we did. And, and this Judge Wang, by the way, it was, it was appointed by Biden. It’s her first case federal judge in Colorado. I was her first case. Does that seem like a coincidence? Everybody? Isn’t that weird? I dunno. Let’s, let’s just shoot, let’s do Mike Lindell.

Okay, so now I was so mad. Yeah. The, the

David Pasqualone: guy just shoot. Let’s, let’s really paint a picture here. That’s [00:36:00] true. The president that used the machines. To get office, which we all were watching the election happen live, right? And between 10 o’clock at night and the morning we woke up, every single vote goes to this guy miraculously, which is statistically impossible, right?

He, he appoints a federal judge and the first case. Isn’t targeted at all, but it just happens to be the guy who’s questioning the election machines who

Mike Lindell: question the election. Right?

David Pasqualone: And, and if you don’t, I don’t believe in coincidence, ladies and gentlemen. So that’s, that’s, that was all intentional. That was all a setup.

But

Mike Lindell: well, a hundred percent. But I want finish this part. Everybody on this part. So you got this judge. Come in now. This judge. When I said to my attorney, why did this judge rule on a dismissal? Now you guys a dismissal, David is your first line of defense. If you weren’t at the scene of the crime or whatever they [00:37:00] wanna call it, you put in for a dismissal.

The judge looks at says, wow, you’re right. A case dismissed. Right. Somebody else. You got the wrong guy.

David Pasqualone: Right. Yeah. Like if somebody accused me of stealing a car in California, right. I’m talking to Mike right now in Pensacola. It’s dismissed. It’s ridiculous.

Mike Lindell: Right, right. You would, you would say he would turn in and say, he wasn’t there.

I can prove this ands and they, and they just dismissed it. This judge, everybody did not rule on the dismissal. She said, you know what? And head trial. I dismiss when darn.

I heard this, remember this was 10 months later, right before my deposition. I was so upset with that judge. After I got into it with their attorney, they go, you know, a judge is gonna be watching this deposition. I turned to the camera and I got a big problem with you, judge. I pointed to, I said, I got a big problem with you.

What’s you’re doing? By not ruling on a dismissal, you’re gonna [00:38:00] ruin our country. If every judge did that, everybody. You could get sued and not even be there, and you wouldn’t. They bleed you out of resources before you could even say, I wasn’t even there. I wasn’t there. This was wrong. So I stood up to this judge and I went on my show and I just bashed her and I said, you need to make a decision rule against me or rule for me.

I’m not gonna let you ruin our country. Judge Wang, of course, she ruled against me, but at least she made a ruling. Hopefully no other judge will try and pull a stunt like that again to some little guy that doesn’t have money. Instead, they bled me outta money, but, but at least, you know what I mean. Proof point.

So this is the case to everybody. So the judge is not real happy with me, but like you, but here’s the thing. This is a jury. 12. Now, maybe you think you can get 12 corrupts, whatever. I don’t. I don’t care where you get these jurors. I don’t care if they’re liberal conservatives, Democrats or Republican. I [00:39:00] put 12 people in a room and everybody knows where I came from.

That was the next crack cocaine addict. I knew nothing about politics and I wanted to secure our election. This isn’t about up being a Republican. Mike, you a Republican? No, I was a crack addict. Gimme a break. I know, and, and this is about, I know I can’t unsee what I’ve seen with these election platforms and I can’t unsee.

We have to go to, you know.

And besides that, I can go anywhere in this country. Do you know there’s not one person I’ve ever ran into, including like Jimmy Kimble that says Mike, I believe a hundred percent that you believe what you’re saying. You know what I’m saying, David? This whole case is based on that. I fabricated this and it had MALS to go after these machine companies.

I got better things to do with my life, right? I, I never back down. I will never back down. That’s why Tina is [00:40:00] in prison for nine years. She tell the judge, you know, I wrong the machine. No, she judge said, you have not any remorse for. Conspiracy theory, and we’re gonna put you in jail for nine years, or in prison.

This is what it’s all about, everybody. That’s why this case is so important, because the whole world’s gonna see it. I wanna be, I hope there’s cameras in the room where everybody can see my testimony and others and and then it’ll be over and, you know, the evidence I got on January 9th, 2021, I’ll have them testifying there.

His name is Dennis Montgomery. He’s been, he’s been, they’ve had a gig order on him for, for, for 44 and a half years. This guy that’s done to save our country, to help our country, and they put this on where the government can’t, you know, he says You can’t talk. Then I got people like General Flynn that head back to Stba and he has to plead the fifth because they’re, you know, these people have things for our government that when they did this corrupt stuff, when they did [00:41:00] this, they put orders on there and to, you know, scare people.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mike Lindell: And there’s, so it’ll be very interesting.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. There’s so many levels of corruption. It’s so intricate, it’s so deep and pervasive that Right. It’s just messy. But ladies and gentlemen. For you, for me, for Mike. It doesn’t matter if it’s on the international scale. It doesn’t matter if it’s in your local community or it doesn’t matter if it’s just between you and your boss or you and a customer.

Right? Do the right thing ’cause it’s the right thing, even if it’s hard. And that way it’ll always pay back. Positive, godly fruit. But if we compromise and if we make, you know, okay, I’ll do this even though I know it’s wrong. Right? So you do that, man, this is what Mike’s doing. He’s being run across hot, fiery coals with glass in it because he’s saying, no, [00:42:00] this is wrong and I’m not gonna stop talking.

Right. And for you and I, if we’re not in the place to do it, to speak up. We need to support Mike and men and women like Mike and we need more of them out there. Right. And it’s not like he’s just saying, you know, I think frogs were once aliens, he’s not just spin off. Right? Right. Crap, that’s insane. He’s saying, look, this is the code for that machine.

That code has major flaws. The election changed overnight. Two plus two plus two is six. This isn’t, this isn’t speculation and conspiracy theory and I hope at some point. All the people labeling so many people as conspiracy theorist, they get hit for deformation and they have to pay massive fines if not go to prison.

Because look at, like Zuckerberg alone, they filtered Facebook and they put such penalties and they shut down accounts and they shut down [00:43:00] truth for their political agenda, which was all propaganda. That’s right. And that’s lies the stuff they put out was lies.

Speaker 3: When are

Mike Lindell: they gonna, when gonna be put in prison or suppress or they Right.

Right. Or they suppress the truth by putting contains false information. Yeah. On my stuff, when I came out with the movie, absolute Proof, they put a thing over there on Facebook, it said, contains nudity and porn. You know, I mean, this is the stuff he put up there today.

You brought up one good point where people have gotten to, and I think it’s coming back around now, ’cause out of fear and stuff, people will not talk. They don’t, you know, they or they won’t talk. And even judges who wants to be the first judge to take down these machine voting, machine company, you, you’re, you’re out of fear.

You get one phone call, hey, you’re living with a pretty nice family or whatever. It I tell you though was that’s drive through. All of over there was four, five.[00:44:00]

They’re surrounding me and they were, and we’re talking, and this went on for two hours. And I go, I go, you guys know what you’re doing is wrong. I said, how could you do, Mike? We’re just doing our, I said, you, I turned to the one guy. Do you think it’s wrong to bash down a mom’s America’s mom? This, this mom Colorado, bash down her door, rip her daughter down the steps, put her out in the yard in her underwear, and she wasn’t charged with anything.

And she, you know what he said? Well, she didn’t open her door fast enough. I said, oh, really? I said, you guys, I said, this was 28 seconds. We all are supposed to have FBI timers. I said, this is disgusting. You guys are sitting here in a hardee’s. Drive-through what you set up here without identifying yourself if it would’ve happened at night.

I would’ve bashed through ’em. I had guns in the back because I came, I was coming back for a hunting trip with my buddy. I would’ve bashed through you guys. I’m telling this the FBI, it would’ve been a high speed chase. I’d been looking for a real [00:45:00] police officer or a sheriff, and I said, who knows what you guys would’ve done?

You know? And I said, you’re just one step of one of those guys. I don’t know. You guys, would you guys have shot me? Kill me. Why don’t you just come to my office and ask me for a copy of my phone? I said, this is disgusting what you set up here. I said, what you’re doing is moral is wrong. And that’s what he said again.

And then I, then I got into him. I started preaching to him about Jesus and reading my book. The one guy’s brother had read my book. I said, you all need to read it, whatever. And, and finally they just got tired of me talking to him and they go, well Mike, we have other stuff. Do I go, wait a minute, you sit here and follow me all the way to Iowa with a tracking device.

You follow me there? You watch my buddy and I hunt duck. You see that? I outshot him? We did. And then we come back and you pull, you know, surround me in this Hardee’s without identifying yourself. That’s bizarre. And I, and, and I said, so what were you waiting for? I said, and by the way, everybody, I asked them to be arrested.

I said, I wanna be arrested. Arrest me [00:46:00] now. Why did I wanna be arrest everybody so I could get on maybe Fox News to talk about these? Election platforms and these companies that we’ve gotta get rid of these computers. That’s all it was about. And they go, we wouldn’t do it. I said, well then bring me to the I said, I kept asking to go to the January 6th committee.

I said, are you and warn out those FBI guys? I said, well, I wanted to go there even though I wasn’t there on January 6th. I wanted to go there. And they wouldn’t, they wouldn’t have anything of it. Right. Well.

They didn’t, they’ve lost their, even though they know it’s wrong, they’re still going along with the flow of, well, well I was told to do this really, so you would’ve shot me. Because it’s a wrong to bash through cars even though you didn’t identify yourself. And you know, I mean, it’s at, or you know, you see where if they knock on the, but this is where we’re at, everybody. It’s just like, you know, if you’re out there and you’re not, you’re just ignoring it, thinking back, or you know, just because the government tells you [00:47:00] to do this or you tell, or you’re supposed to do this outta safety and concern. And this is what I told the president or when, when we this last election.

You got? I said, oh, you’re gonna win. I said, you’re gonna win. Be and they’re not gonna cheat. They’re cheated. But they didn’t take the 50, you know, they took about 6 million votes from, I think we’ve talked about this before. And because I look at, at this massive marketing, evil is greedy. Everybody, that’s what we have going for evil is greedy.

Well, evil had to sit back and I’m telling you, they, they had so overplayed their hand, the left. Four or five years that if someone was going to give us China virus 2.0 before the election, we would’ve never fell for all this crap wearing masks and taking shots and, and sitting out in snow banks in Minnesota.

I’ve said this before, we we went to, we said one, pull us again, same way with a stolen election, if they would’ve stolen it from Donald Trump. I’ll guarantee you right now, David, every, the [00:48:00] whole country would’ve demanded that every voting machine be opened up. Just like if you had a bad bank balance on your computer, and let’s say one bank, let’s say you all the banks, everyone’s going, Hey, it says, it says I, I’m missing $20,000.

Do you think everyone would sit back and go, I’m sorry, we, you can’t see it. You’re just gonna have to trust us. You can’t look in our bank. Those banks could be, people would march on, those banks would say, open up the computers. I wanna see where my money is. I wanna see what happened. That’s where, at everybody.

But with the machine, with the voting machines, that’s not, that’s proprietary. Proprietary, you guys, you can’t look at your own elections. Come on, this ain’t gonna happen.

David Pasqualone: You know? And right there, right there, there’s a security risk. I get it for people trying to hack the machines. But if our government is buying the machines, they should have open access to know how they’re being supposedly protected to [00:49:00] verify is it really secure.

So, yeah. So Mike, it’s been great. Speaking with you today. As always. Ladies and gentlemen, we talked about, you know, Mike’s got the sale this week. Take advantage of those sheets before they go back up in price, even at full price. They’re worth it. But go to mypillow.com, use promo code. Remarkable. Enjoy the sheets.

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Mike Lindell: $25 to everybody, any size, any color, this, and $25 a step. That’s less than wholesale. Yeah. Home code. Remarkable. Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And they’re, they are fantastic. Like I said, I just ordered four more, more sets, so check out the sheets. We got that this month. You said on Jan June 2nd.

You got the big keys coming up the first. Case like that. So ladies and gentlemen, please support Mike Prey Lindell Offense fund. Is it offense fund? Right? Not defense fund.

Mike Lindell: Offense fund, yeah. We’re actually gonna set up a defense fund. Everybody everyone’s, because I remember with my Linde offense fund, none of the money I ever used for any of the lawsuits, but [00:50:00] everyone’s been telling me and I do need help.

We will be setting up the next time I’m on by. For this particular case, this is so important to the country. I’m just saying let’s do it. Let’s get all the resources so we can get it. So we can get win this. We, it’s for the country. It’s for the world. But for right now, you can go to lindell plan.com and you can donate there and help out there.

That goes, at least I don’t have to put, this is all the other fight. That’s out there paying the cause of America, the Election crime bureau. So I don’t have to put, I don’t have to put resources into that. I can focus over here. So you can do that. But right now, that would really help.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. But we talked about the mark of the beast.

We talked about end times, we talked about kangaroo courts. We’ve talked about a lot of stuff. Mike, before we end the episode, is there anything else or any closing thoughts you wanna leave our audience before we go to the next episode?

Mike Lindell: Yeah, you guys I’m gonna say this again too. You know, the one thing we didn’t really touch on today was, you know, about my Linde [00:51:00] recovery network.org.

You guys, if you know anybody out there in addiction, you know, you hear it every day. Now with the fentanyl and everything, all this stuff, that’s all the addiction is in our country. And remember, addiction.

Go there. It’s free. It’s the linde recovery network.org. It’s free, and you get, and you’ll find Jesus there. That’s a, it’s a, it’s amazing thing. That’s what Keith Ellison is trying to destroy that platform. So that’s being attacked. You guys can help out there too. I mean, they’re trying to stop, take away everything I have.

So that these great things like that recovery network, do not keep going. But I’m not gonna let any of these things stop just because I’m outta resources and I’m not above asking for help everybody. But we need, we do need your help. And and that would be great. And I, and I can’t stress the importance of this case.

I believe God’s opening the things that. Just this last week with the, you know, I ended up [00:52:00] in DC at the National Day of Prayer. There’s a lot of other stuff going on behind the scenes with tv. You guys all gotta get there, but the way it’s lining up for this case, it’s lining up beautifully. Where I think God’s going to use it in a big way.

All we need, you guys remember the last four and a half years, no judge has been brave enough. They’re not all corrupt. Everybody. They’re, they’re afraid. A lot of people are afraid they don’t wanna be the first one to crack this evil. And when you have the tool of the devil itself. To take whole countries without firing a shot.

That device, you know, Hey, let’s take this device. Well, it’s here everybody. It’s called the of the computer of when our voting machines are, and there’s no safe machine. I wanna say one more thing on that. Do not be fooled that, oh, my state has paper ballots. Or like your Louisiana, where the Secretary of State is [00:53:00] ordering more counting machines.

We have paper ballots. No one says you don’t have, we have paper ballots throughout the whole country, but they’re counted with electronic tabulators that are online. Everybody, we have to have paper ballots hand. Don’t let anybody tell you any different. So, thanks David again great to be on here and it’s great to have the audience support. You know, like I say, even, even just praying everybody keep, keep it in your prayers. It’s like these things, it’s like you know, it was, it was for me, it was really good to see the president ’cause he, he even inspires me.

You know, my faith in God keeps me going. But the President, he. He doesn’t stop. He just, you know, you know, you’ll have 10 things going on at once and fighting through ’em all. Mm-hmm. And whether, you know, and just keeps going. And that’s what we all have to have. Courage is contagious to everybody, and we all gotta be courageous during these time.

David Pasqualone: Amen. Amen. And ladies and gentlemen, like I said, if you [00:54:00] can help Mike, help him out because he’s a, he’s spending. His own personal resources to protect America, and he has the ability and platform to do it, even though he’s been financially, they’re trying to drain him. So if you can send money to support the cause, do it because it’s protecting our country and our rights and our generations to come.

So if you can do that, awesome. Another way to support which directly helps yourself is buy product from MyPillow. Use promo code. Remarkable. You get to get amazing products at a fraction of the cost. It helps Mike, it helps his employees. It even helps our podcast. So shop, and then anytime things happen, you know, pray just for not just wisdom, but the courage, like Mike said, to act and the courage to do, and the courage not to compromise because.

You know, it says in the Bible, Jesus [00:55:00] says, many people will come to me in the end and say, Lord, Lord, and he’s gonna say, I never knew thee. So you gotta make sure your relationship with God is true and real, and then have the cojones to do what’s right because it’s right. And don’t worry about the outcome.

Sometimes it’s scary for me, sometimes it’s scary for Mike, but when we have the right perspective. It’s never scary ’cause you know God’s gonna win. Right. So I’m David Pasqualone. This is our good friend, Mike Lindell. Thank you for being here today, Mike. Thank you. Thank you. God bless. And then ladies and gentlemen, we love you.

We’ll see you in the next episode. If you have any comments, leave ’em in the comments below on a rumble or on our website. And if you want to send someone personal through my website, david Pasqualone dot com, even if it’s for Mike, I’ll make sure he sees it and we get it over to him. Have a great day.

Ciao.