Beyond Transcendence with Andrew Podcast – The Divine Call to Podcasting

Welcome, beautiful souls. As you take a moment to breathe and settle in, you may begin to sense the present of something greater guiding you, shaping you, calling you. Today’s guest understands that calling deeply. I’m honored to welcome David Pascal, a man who stepped into the world of podcasting, not through strategy or ambition, but through obedience to a divine nudge that changed the direction of his life.

In this conversation, David shares how faith led him onto the microphone, what he learned through surrender, and how following God’s voice, even when it doesn’t make sense, can open doors you never expected. We talk about integrity. Purpose and the difference between chasing opportunity and honoring alignment.

David breaks down sponsorships and affiliate partnerships, not as marketing tools, but as an extension of his values and at the heart of it all, we explore fear, trauma healing, and how reconnecting with God can transform the darkest moments into a the foundation of powerful and purposeful life. This episode is about courage, obedience, faith, and the quiet miracles that unfold when you choose to follow the voice within.

Please welcome David Pascal. Welcome to my show, David. Hey, it’s good to be here, Andrew. Well, very welcome to have you. So tell me about your journey, like what brought you to podcasting. I know the last time we spoke, you mentioned that God spoke to you and told you that this is what you’re meant to be doing.

Yeah, I mean, I don’t know if it’s my whole life, but at least at that moment and now I never even listened to podcasts. I wasn’t sure what a podcast was, and I felt the like leading a God saying, Hey, you need to start a podcast and interview people. What? Like, I thought I was just, you know, making it up in my head.

So it kept happening. And then one day I am at some fights. I just see this guy in the crowd and I’m like, he’s not a normal human. You could just tell. Uh, and we were right at ringside. And so I start talking to him and sure enough, he was an eight time world kickboxing champion, karate points champion.

And I was, I just felt inside God’s like, you could interview him, you could interview him. I’m like, I just met this guy. I don’t wanna embarrass myself. I don’t have an inter a podcast. I don’t have a TV show and I wanna interview you. It’s gonna think I’m some weirdo, right. So I went ahead and I’m like, all right.

Hey, man, you want to grab lunch sometime? He’s like, yeah. So we switched numbers and uh, you know, kind of move on with life. But in my head I’m thinking like, God’s telling you do something. You’re not doing it. And it’s like, no, no, no. You’re making this up. God’s not telling you to do this. So I, I wasn’t, I was being disobedient.

I just didn’t believe that I was being like, I thought I was making it up in my head, right. So then a couple weeks later, I’m at a coffee shop in a business meeting. And when I walk in, the lady that was waiting for me, she’s watching another woman through the window and the girl through the window’s, like talking and super animated, and I’m like, 20 bucks.

She’s a business coach. And she’s like, what? She’s like, how do you know? I’m like, because she’s super animated, like how she’s talking the passion. I’m like, she must really love what she does. I bet she’s like a business coach or public speaker, and she’s like, ah, I want to go talk to her. I’m like, go talk to her.

And she’s like, no, no, no. We got work to do. So I’m like, all right. So we do work and then as we’re talking, the lady gets up and leaves. Then the lady I’m with is like, oh man, I wish I talked to her. I’m like, you should have talked to her. I’m like, what do you have to lose? And then I somehow, she mentioned she thought about starting a podcast.

I’m like, that’s crazy. I was thinking about that too. I’m like, is it just like radio on demand? So I’m asking her questions about what a podcast is, and then she’s, she explains it to me a little more. I’m like, oh. I’m like, you should go talk to that lady if she comes back. She’s like, I will. I will. So then we finish our meeting and it’s like an hour past when that lady left.

And as I’m walking to the car, I hear, you should have talked to that lady. I’m like, what? At that point, I was married and I’m like, I’m not gonna just talk to a random woman. And he is like, no, you need to talk to that woman. I’m like, okay, well she’s gone. So then I move up to the car and he obviously, God’s kind and nice, I’m just relaying a dialogue in my head with my voice.

Look, God is firm and strong. So anyways, so I go to my car and guess who’s parked to my left? The lady, the lady in her car still talking on her phone, passionately going at it. So I’m like, okay, all right. I gotta be obedient, like I wanna be obedient. Knock on her window. She looks at me, you know, strange guy rolls down her window.

And I’m like, Hey, I’m married. I’m not hitting on you. My name’s David. I’m thinking about starring a podcast. What are the odds you’d like to be on a show and share your life story? And she just starts laughing and she’s like, that’s what I do for a living. I’m a life coach and public speaker. Like exactly what I thought she was.

And we both start laughing. I’m like, well, listen. I’ve never done this before. You’re actually gonna be my first guest, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Gave her the info. She gave me hers, and we ended up sending a meeting. So then I jump in my truck. I’m like, all right, God. I’m like, well, we got number one.

Let’s go for number two. So I called the guy I met at the fight and I’m like, Hey, Cisco, this is Dave. What’s going on, man? Talking? I’m like, well, I said, I’m gonna start something called a podcast. It’s basically a radio show on demand. Interview you sh share your life story and we hopefully encourage people and glorify, God, you wanna be on it?

Yeah man, let’s do it. And that’s how it started. And then within a month we had everything up and running. And then it was supposed to be a show, the Remarkable People Podcast. And it’s how what people were able to achieve or overcome in their life, you know how they did it in practical steps so we as listeners can too.

And I started off like, I’ll just do it as I meet remarkable people. And we went from like a show that I plan to do once a month if I was lucky to once a week. And I have a backlog of guests for nine months from all over the world, all backgrounds, all different types of stories. So I’m super thankful and blessed and it all started with just, God tell me what to do, and I just listened.

What did you learn on this journey about yourself?

I mean, so overall I learned that God doesn’t need me. Like it’s just a privilege to be, you know, I don’t wanna use used by him as something people say, but you’re not being used like manipulated, but to be involved in his work, right? Because you can do your best at anything in life and fail.

You can do everything wrong and still succeed. Now granted, normally you reap what you sow, but there’s also, outside of our will, the main thing is the will of God. So when I started the show, excuse me, like I said, I didn’t even know what a podcast was and I just started podcasting with my background.

Well, how, what is my background? Sales and marketing. Okay, so what do you need? You need a central hub. Build a website. Okay, well, I’m gonna be dealing with guests and I need, you know, information and intake forms and pictures. Okay. So I need an intake process check. Okay, well I need public facing. Okay, I gotta build that, that kind of infrastructure where the, there’s a blog and there’s a category and a library and, okay, check.

So I just built everything based on what I knew in business. But I knew nothing about podcasting and within a couple months we were fully funded with sponsors and we had a top, like, it was like immediately successful. And I think, you know, I don’t believe stats because there’s so much trash that goes on in the industry.

Like we’re web stats can be very precise. Podcasting’s still like the Wild West. And we were ranked immediately like in the top 5% of podcasts. And you know, it stayed that way. Ever since we’ve been up into the top one. So I think right now we hover around one and a half or two. But that’s an honor to me, right?

But this is what I’m saying is what I learned is I didn’t know what I was doing and God still made it successful. Right. So that’s, God, that’s not me. And then even with like sponsors, I did sponsors the first two seasons and it was a bunch of work and stress for me. ’cause I wanna fulfill my promises, I wanna deliver results.

That’s how I am with my clients. I, I stress way too much. I shouldn’t, but I stress and I am more connected and more involved in the projects than the clients are because I want them to see results and have that good reputation and have them prosper. So they tell their friends. Successful and they’re helping people and the customers are benefiting, everybody wins.

Right? Well, when I seasons three through seven, I just stopped doing sponsorships because I was like, didn’t have, I had my business to run. I had my fa, my life and family, and I was like, just dealing with sponsors, I’ll just pay this outta my pocket. So, you know, running the podcast for our podcast was about five grand a year.

Like all the expenses, and that doesn’t include my time. That was just like the hard costs and paying some of my intern to, you know, you know, he did it for free, but I wanted to pay him something to help producing episodes and stuff. So roughly it was around five grand a year, and then around season eight, I’m like, God, if this is your will, which I believe it is, you don’t need me.

And I, it wasn’t me coming to God. I was, God kind of probing me like, Dave, you need to have more faith. So I’m sitting there and I had this idea for a book. So we took 12 guests from the podcast and we had them come and write one chapter, laser focused on one topic, and we call it remarkable people, volume one, how they overcame adversity achieve success, and you can too.

So we had this book now from the podcast and I was expecting it to be huge because God told me to do it and it did well. But then I got in this thing where Amazon just a lot of issues with Amazon and I had like documented proof, like numbers were not being reported. So I kinda lost enthusiasm of the project and I just let it go organically.

So then I’m like, well, that’s interesting. And I was like, I thought that was gonna fund it. And then immediately after it was, I felt like you were saying like I, that’s good, but you need to do that. That book’s gonna help people. But that wasn’t what I was doing for funding. I was doing it just for other reasons.

The funding I’ll take care of. I’m like, okay. And then, I’m not kidding, Andrew, I don’t know if it was that afternoon or the next day. So within 24 hours I had three. International businesses like National in America, but also international, come to me and be like, Hey, we want to sponsor your show. And people come to me all the time, but it was just like, what are the timing that three big ones are gonna come the same thing.

And I’ve been turned ’em down for four years. So I’m like, wait. One of them I dismissed immediately. The other one I said, I don’t know enough about your product. I’m not gonna endorse anything I don’t use. I wanna try it. And the other one, I love their product. And so from that point forward, we started working with affiliates and it’s been super amazing and we’ve done really, really well.

Like all the costs of the podcast and a whole lot more are covered. So now we have money that we can pour back into the show and helping more people and reaching more people. And now I get paid for my time too. So it’s a beautiful thing.

That’s amazing. So how does affiliates work for people who don’t understand affiliates?

So affiliates, sponsors, and affiliates are two different beasts. Sponsors. You come to an agreement, they pay for, let’s say, 30 to 60 seconds to advertise on your show. Per episode. I mean you, your contract’s, whatever you want it to be, but typically it’s like, okay, we’re gonna sponsor 12 or six months of shows and we’re gonna pay you $300 a show or a hundred dollars a show.

Or you know, if you’re Joe Rogan, $80,000 a show, you know, whatever it is. And then you are gonna read this script. So the host reads a script. See, I didn’t wanna do that ’cause I’m not gonna say anything I don’t believe in. Then you have where it’s like, well, you just say what you feel about our product.

Okay, well that’s great. I love this product. It makes me feel good, you know, whatever. So that’s, that’s fine. But sponsors, I love delivering results. So to me, I can’t see what they’re getting. So it always stressed me out, like, is this good enough? Am I doing enough? Are we reaching enough people? So it was a personal thing enough.

Most people are great with sponsors. I just have this. Hypersensitive, probably overdeveloped. Like I wanna make sure I fulfill my promises to people. So that’s why sponsors to me were stressful. But a sponsor basically is we give you X dollars to do this, and they track their own results. Doesn’t matter if they get one sale or a million sales, they’re happy paying you that 300 bucks an episode, let’s say affiliates are different.

Affiliates will give you a promo code, for instance. I love MyPillow. I’ve been using MyPillow pillows sheets for years, but I didn’t realize they had blankets and mattress toppers and slippers and bath towels. No idea. So when we connected with MyPillow, I’m like, I love the company. I love what you stand for.

I love your products. Yeah, let’s do this. So then they’re like, Hey, go to our website and pick out other things you want to try besides, you know, the pillow and the sheets. And that way you can. Let people know what you think and they’re honest company wanting honest feedback. So they give you a promo code.

So our promo code’s remarkable. So anybody who goes to mypillow.com and orders whatever they want, use promo code. Remarkable. They get 30 to 80% off everything they order every time, and a lot of times free shipping. So that’s an affiliate. You get a promo code. Your listeners use the promo code on their website and they get a discount.

So the listener wins, the company wins, but because it is tied to that promo code, now that company will pay me or you, whoever it is, a percentage that you guys agreed upon. So let’s say, you know, you know there’s company, I’m just gonna call it x. Not X, like, okay, we’ll call it T, company T, right? Because X is actually Twitter now.

So company T hires you, Andrew to be an affiliate, and they’re like, for every widget you sell for us, we’re gonna give you 10% of the sale. The widget costs a hundred dollars, so every time you sell a widget, you make 10 bucks. They sell a widget, you make 10 bucks. So the customer gets the discount that they promised, they get a sale, and you get some commission.

Works great, but what’s the catch? What is the super important part of this equation, Andrew, that people need to realize,

what, what am I getting outta this? Or what are you getting outta this?

No, everybody. The customer’s winning. The company’s winning, and you’re winning. Everybody’s winning. This is the caveat.

An affiliate is only as good as the integrity of the company, and nine Outta 10 sadly are pieces of trash with integrity. They lie. I do a lot of affiliate work, not just for my company, but through my customer’s companies. So I probably have, you know, dozens of affiliates we work with. And I can show you links from my website, from customer’s websites.

Like I remember there was one, I won’t use the name even though I should. 10,000 link. 10,000 clicks. So 10,000 link clicks. From the customer’s website to the affiliate over 90 days. Guess what they reported back in sales.

$10,000

zero. Wow. Or, or, or it was like, actually I think it was worse. I think it was something I, I’m saying zero, I want to say it was like $3 and 80 cents.

Like it was like insulting. Like, and they’re, they, a lot of people don’t pay attention. They just take the link they put on their website. We actually follow the traffic. And basically this affiliate. Statistically, if 10,000 people click on a link, you’re gonna get a few sales. Okay? You’re gonna get a lot of sales.

But if we said like, worst case scenario, you know, if you 10,000, 1000 is 10%. Okay? 1% is a hundred. If you take a percentage of that. 10 people, easily, like 10 people would order by accident. And they’re saying like, basically one person ordered for $3, for $3 and 80 cents worth of commission. It’s a total lie.

So that company I cut ties with and their IT person was, uh, very offensive. They basically said, f you, we know what we’re doing. You’re, you’re complaining nobody else is. And I’m like, well, everybody else is stupid at not paying attention. Same thing with our government. You’re in Canada, I’m in America. The government and these politicians are running wild and everybody else we’re busy working hard.

But you know, like Ronald Reagan said, trust but verify. Right? We need to have checks and balances. So when it comes to sponsors, you get the money no matter what the results are. When it comes to affiliates, you only get the money if you perform and bring the rain, make results. But even if you bring the rain and make results, you don’t get a penny.

If that company’s alliance scumbag. Does that make sense?

Yeah, that makes sense. A hundred percent.

So that’s why you should make deals only with companies. You, you know, like, and trust and believe in that way you can fully sell their products and then even if they were to screw you, you still feel good about it.

But at the same time, if, you know, like, and trust the company. They’re not gonna screw you because you guys obviously think the same. So now again, there could be technical glitches and that’s why you stay on top of things. I don’t check every week or every, I don’t check every day. I don’t check every week.

I’ll check like once a month, but two plus two is four. You know? And if I see 30 leads go to a source, there’s a chance there’s no sales. Still unlikely but a chance. But if I see 3000, there’s gonna be some money there. So you’ve gotta go and say, Hey, uh, why aren’t we registering to be sales? And they’ll be like, oh yeah, yeah, there’s a glitch, sorry.

And they’ll fix it. But the honest company’s like MyPillow never had a problem with them, man. Honest is a day is long. Even with all the lies the media puts out there about ’em. I work with ’em personally, are super, super honest and amazing to work with. And one time, well, not me personally, but one of my employees did something against their code of procedural code, not like code of ethics.

And they. Promoted my pillow with my promo code somewhere they weren’t supposed to, and I had income come in from it. So I’m like, Hey, don’t pay me. He screwed up. And they’re like, Nope. They’re like, you still, they saw your code. We’ll give it to you. So, like I said, they’re such a great company and they make amazing products.

I actually have been doing tests this week with other pillows. As dumb as it sounds, ’cause I’ve been sleeping so good for so long that I’m like, I wonder, is it just a different time in my life or is it really the pillow and the sheets and the blankets and the mattress stopper making a difference. So, you know, in science you don’t change too many variables at once.

So all I did was replace the pillow. And I don’t remember if it was at the start of this show, like the, the recording we’re doing. Or if it was you and I in the, before you clicked record, but do you remember me saying how I just haven’t slept good la I didn’t sleep good the last two nights.

Yeah.

Yeah. I, I said that again.

I don’t know if it was in this recording and all the listen. No, it wasn’t, but I slept terrible, right? Mm-hmm. I switched pillows and the pillow I used last night is a very expensive pillow. I, I think when I bought it, it was near $300 ’cause I was having neck issues. Right. It was before I started using my pillow and I just kept it.

’cause you know, you don’t throw away like a fricking $300 pillow, but it didn’t help me, right? So two nights ago I used this like luxury down pillow. I woke up with a neck ache last night. I used this firm phone. I’m not gonna say the name ’cause I don’t wanna bash anybody, but man, I had freaking nightmares all night and I slept terrible.

And it was just not good. So tonight I’m gonna go back to the MyPillow and I already know what’s gonna happen. I’m gonna sleep like a baby. So the My pillows are great values. They’re inexpensive to begin with. And then with the promo code, remarkable, you get 30 to 80% off the product. So, see what I’m saying?

I love the product. I’m helping our listeners, I’m helping my pillow, we’re helping America. And then our show, it all circles back and I actually get commission off it. It’s freaking awesome. We get paid to help people.

That’s the way it should be.

Yeah, well

like for those struggling right now with not understanding how the process of connecting with God works, what would you say to them?

Connecting with God’s awesome. It’s just like you and I talking, but I mean, obviously there’s a reverence and respect for God, but you can talk to God. A lot of religions, I’m not picking one, but a lot of religions are like, you have to go through the church, you have to do this, you have to do that. That is not in the Bible.

There is no in the Bible, old Testament, new Testament cover to cover. That’s not, it says there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. So when we pray, we talk to God and when we read our Bible. God can speak to us in many ways, but mostly, you know, when Amer in our generation today, when we write our Bible, God speaks to us.

But then you also, when you trust Christ as your Savior, the Holy Ghost and dwells you. So that’s where I said I could hear, I’m not like hearing voices, but you actually feel the leading, like some people call it instinct, some people call it like, oh, I had, you know, I just knew. I just knew, but I didn’t know how.

I believe that when you trust Christ, the Holy Ghost in dwells you based on what the Bible says. And then in the Bible it says in John, like you have an unction from the holy one. And you know all things in one John. Um, so if you’re listening and you’re quiet and you’re hearing that still small voice, you can hear God.

When you pray, it’s just like us praying, God, you know, even I think there’s a lot of respect and reverence, and you should, I believe you should pray on both knees if you physically can and you know your head down and, and humility. However, I also, there’s times where I have conversational prayer. I’m driving, I’m talking to God, just like I’m talking to you now.

I’m like, God, what’s going? What can I do? What, what should I have done? I’m sorry for doing that. So talking to God is simply like talking to your daddy and some of us, like I never grew up with a father. You know, I had a sperm donor, my father to my mother, but I never grew up with anybody in the house.

And um, so for me it was harder to know God because a lot of times on Earth, our image of God is based on our image of our earthly father. And when you have a bad relationship or experience with your earthly father, you’re naturally thinking conscious or subconscious that that’s how our relationship with God is.

And it’s not. God is a loving, caring God, but he, he’s strong and he. Just, and he has clear boundaries and lines. But man, it says, for God so loved the world, me and you personally. He loved Andrew, he loved David, he loved your listener. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, the who so ever believed him should not perish, but have everlasting life, right?

So God had Jesus’ the only begotten son. That word begotten is huge because we’re all God’s children, creation. We’re all his, the family of God in the sense of he was our creator, but, but God, it means there was actually, God put the seed in Mary and Mary had Jesus. So that’s what it means by begotten. It was actually a physical birth for Jesus, even though he.

God. So it’s just a beautiful thing. But if you just say, how do you talk to God? Talk to him. Just like we’re talking. But then you have to go back to the belief verse trust. That’s a huge difference right there.

Beautiful. What would you say to someone right now who’s struggling with trauma, going through the fear, not knowing how to live life, blaming the universe, blaming the world, what would you say to them right now?

So there’s a lot to that and everybody’s situation’s different and there’s so many variables, but the foundational life is, we’re all born, we’re all gonna die, and where are we gonna spend eternity? Right. Like a fire or with God. So for someone who’s struggling with trauma and fear, it’s interesting because there’s people I know and there’s times in my life where.

When I trusted Christ, everything went away. It just vanished. But there’s also times where it’s like, yeah, God’s there and he gives us the strength and the encouragement, but we still have to go through the pain or the battle. But this is the thing. God’s not a vindictive God. He doesn’t torture people. He doesn’t cause any pain.

Satan causes all the pain. Satan causes all the Trump. Satan causes all the hardship and the, you know, saying’s the author of confusion. Satan causes all the problems and then tries to blame it on God. That’s not true. God is only love. But he gives us all free will. Free will to make our own choices good or bad.

And that’s just like what I, what I was alluding to before, believing there is a God. Even the demons believe, and that’s clearly in the Bible. They know there’s a God. They’ve spent time with God. Okay? But you need to trust. And trust means I put my faith in you that I know you are the way, the truth in my life.

No man coming to the Father by Jesus. So to answer your question, when I was 15, I didn’t know. I’m 48 now, so back in the nineties. You know, they didn’t have all the touchy feely stuff we have now, and there wasn’t like if you went to a counselor, it was, especially where I grew up, it was like, you’re made fun of.

You’re a nut job. What’s wrong with you? So when I was a teenager, I was sick all the time and the doctors told me nothing was wrong. My home life was terrible, super messed up. I don’t want her go into details right now. Public school, I hated school. I love learning, but I hated school. It was like going and getting picked on every day and having all these issues.

So everything in my world was trash. And I had, looking back now when I was 15, like a panic attack one night, and I thought I was losing my mind. And I remember like getting out of it and then going up. I didn’t say anything the first time. Then like two days later, it happened again. So I just thought I was losing my mind.

I, I just, it was terrible feeling. So I go upstairs and I, I woke my mom up and I’m like, mom, I, I think I’m going crazy. And she’s like, what do you want? And I’m like, I, I think I’m going crazy. She’s like, well, what do you want me to do about it? I’m like, well, and then God put it in my heart. Go to the, you know, there’s this pastor.

Every time we’re on the basketball courts, there’s his pastor down there talking to the teens. And then he’d come to our house and he’d knock on our door and he’d be like, Hey, you know, why don’t you come to youth group? Or, you know, everywhere we go, he’d always be there, always loving, always want to just, Hey, how, how can I help you spend time telling you about Jesus and, and helping you grow and be a better human?

So I’m like, I, I want to go to church today. And this was like a two. I’m talking to my mom at like 2:00 AM on Wednesday morning. And it just, I didn’t know when church was. It just so happens it was a Wednesday and she’s like, I’m not going with you, but I’ll drop you off. I’m like, okay. I go to school and obviously I’m thinking I’m going crazy.

I’m like, is it gonna happen again? Is it gonna happen again? And then she ends up bringing me to church. And why? I’m telling you my story is, ’cause everybody’s story’s different, but I want you to see the similarity. I had fear, I had anxiety, I had anger. I had pain. I had all these bad things. But that night I went to church and I didn’t know Andrew.

And some people may be listening, they don’t know the difference. There’s a hymnal and there’s a Bible. Okay. Well, I knew there’s a difference between those, but when they were singing songs, I didn’t know how to find songs and they were talking about the Bible. I didn’t know where they were talking about or where they were at.

And as the pastor speaking, I’m raising my hand, like I’m in school and asking questions, and nobody said a word. Nobody said a word. And it was a small church and it was a Wednesday night, so it was only like 50, 75 people there. But nobody said a word. They just answered my questions and moved on and I am like, okay.

Um, I went back Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night. I was going every time I could ’cause I wanted answers to my questions. And then Thursday night was youth group, so I was going Thursday nights. So then now I’m going to church four times a week, and I’m just like, why have these questions? I have that questions.

Is God real? Or you know, if he’s real, why? Why did this happen? Why did this happen to me? Why did this happen to that person? Da da da da da da. And the pastor would always go back to, those are great questions. Those are important, but the most important thing is have you trusted Christ? Do you have a relationship with Christ?

So then one day we’re walking outta youth group after I asked another ton of questions and he puts his arm around me and he’s like, Dave. He’s like, we’re a small church and sadly we don’t have a lot of men in our church who have time in their schedule to disciple. But I have a friend that lives at town over and I’ve talked to him and he said that he’d be willing to meet with you, you know, once or twice a week and disciple you.

Would you be interested in that? And I’m like, I think so. That sounds good, but what’s disciple? So he starts laughing and he’s like, disciple just means basically sit down with you and answer your questions from the Bible. I’m like, yeah, I definitely want that. This gentleman comes over to my house and he’s not, you know, without sin.

The pastor’s not without sin. I’m not without sin, but they’re forgiven by God and they’re trying to help other people like me. So we sit down and he shows me out of the Bible how simple it is to be saved. For whosoever shall call upon the Lord shall be saved. For what? The heart man belief unto righteousness, but with the mouth confession is made to salvation.

So, Andrew, I trusted Christ when I was 15. My life completely changed and I had peace and joy and all that anxiety and all that pain and all that stress gone. So for me, I can tell you I had like an almost instant change in my life. That didn’t mean my problems left, but how I internalized in my brain and my heart was totally different.

And then through life, I’ve had some serious, after that they found out all that sickness I had as a teenager. I had a tumor in my head, you know, I got critically ill again in my thirties for something I didn’t do, and I wasn’t sick for weeks. I was sick for years, and then I ended up going through this brutal, terrible divorce.

I fought for the marriage for 24 years, but it still ended badly. So it’s not that life will be without problems ’cause saving, if you’re doing the right thing, sand’s gonna attack you and try to destroy your life and reputation. But if you’re not doing anything for God, he doesn’t care, let you go. He will actually let you want you to prosper.

So you think you’re moving the right direction. Right? Um, so for me, and why I’m telling the listeners this, if you have a ton of problems and pain and issues and anxiety and stress. You should really start in the New Testament in John, the Book of John, even First John, and read it and ask God to show you truth.

And as you’re reading, if you have questions, try to get somebody to disciple you, but make sure people who you’re talking to are speaking truth out of the Bible. If it’s, I believe every answer, every question is in the Bible. There’s some bad humans out there who say they believe the Bible, but in their heart they’re like a devil and they manipulate the scripture.

They’ll take one scripture and twist it around. So you have to make sure that cover to cover everything’s lining up together. ’cause there’s no contradiction or flaw in the Bible. When God talks about a subject and someone’s explaining it to you, make sure they use scripture to back it up. ’cause what I say, what Andrew says, what anybody says means nothing but what God says means everything.

So to go back to your original question, when I trusted Christ Andrew when I was 15, it changed my entire life. It changed my outlook, everything, and it was beautiful. And then even though I’ve had terrible, hard things happen, and sometimes I’ve had the wrong attitude or the wrong mindset, or I’ve willfully sent, God forgives me because he loves me.

It’s wiped away, not because of me, but because God’s good. So for with the heart man, belief unto righteousness, but the mouth confessions that’s made into salvation. If somebody doesn’t just believe there’s a God, but they’re like, God, I trust you. I trust you. Not which is my life, but with my eternity, he’ll save you.

And that’s because God promises. It’s a promise in the Bible, and God doesn’t break his promise.

I love that. Well, this has been such a wonderful interview, David. So happy to have met you, wish you nothing, but continue success along your journey, and much love to you my friend.

You too, Andrew. And for any of your listeners, if you guys ever need anything, reach out to me and I’d love to continue the conversation.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Bye. What a powerful conversation. David reminded us today that when God calls, he equips, and every step we take in faith becomes part of a bigger story than ourselves. Whether you resonated with his journey into podcasting, his lessons about integrity and alignment, or his testimony of overcoming fear and trauma, something in his message was meant for you.

Maybe you felt a spark of courage. Maybe you heard of whisper of direction. Maybe you sensed a reminder. That you’re not walking your path alone. David’s story showed us that obedience isn’t about perfection. It’s about trust. It’s about choosing to believe that God is with you in healing with you, in growth, and with you in every new beginning.

As you step into the rest of your day, carry this truth with you. Your story matters. Your voice matters, and the world is waiting for what God placed within you. So as you step back into your life, take one slow breath and feel what’s shifting inside you. Now. Until next time, remember, you are the creator of your own story and your soul is the pen.

Much love to you all.