How to Take the Driver’s Seat and Achieve 5-Year Goals in 2 Years with David Wood

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Are you digging a hundred holes only three feet deep, or are you going deep enough to strike gold? If you feel scattered, overwhelmed by “shiny object syndrome,” or like a passenger in your own business, this episode is your roadmap to radical focus.

Episode Summary: In this episode, David Pasqualone sits down with David Wood, the “Focus CEO,” to discuss the practical steps of reclaiming your time and destination. David shares his journey from being a high-achieving, hyper-logical “left-brain” success in Australia to discovering the “softer skills” of emotional intelligence and authenticity that truly drive leadership. After a childhood tragedy led him to shut down his emotional side, David spent 25 years rebalancing his life—and now he teaches high performers how to do the same while accelerating their professional results.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • The Driver vs. Passenger Mindset: How to tell if you’re actually in control of your life or just along for the ride.

  • The “Gold Digging” Trap: Why high performers often fail by spreading themselves too thin across too many project.

  • The Focus Hierarchy: David’s system for deciding exactly what your month, week, day, and even your next 25 minutes should be about.

  • Accelerating Results: Practical tips on how to reach your five-year goals in just two years.

  • The Power of Balance: Why integrating logic with emotional intelligence is the key to both happiness and successful leadership.

Key Episode Takeaways

  • The Driver vs. Passenger Mindset: David establishes that most people live as “passengers,” reacting to life rather than steering toward a chosen destination.

  • The “Gold Digging” Trap: High achievers often fail by digging a hundred holes three feet deep (shiny object syndrome) instead of focusing on one deep enough to find gold.

  • Childhood Trauma & Hyper-Logic: David recounts the traffic accident that killed his sister when he was seven, explaining how the resulting trauma caused him to shut down his emotions and become hyper-logical for survival.

  • The 25-Year Rebalancing: After achieving “left-brain” success, David spent decades reclaiming “soft skills” like emotional intelligence, vulnerability, and authenticity.

  • The Focus Hierarchy: David introduces his system for radical focus: deciding what your month, week, day, and even your next 25 minutes are about.

  • Accelerating Results: Practical advice on how to reach five-year goals in two years through extreme prioritization and avoiding distractions.

  • Integration for Leadership: Why the “unusual” combination of systems and emotional intelligence is necessary for modern CEOs and entrepreneurs.

Video Timestamps & Moments of Gold

  • 00:00:00 – Welcome to Season 13 of the Remarkable People Podcast.

  • 00:01:23 – The “Driver vs. Passenger” guarantee: Choosing your destination.

  • 00:01:44 – Shiny Object Syndrome and the “Three Feet Deep” trap.

  • 00:02:44 – Finding balance: God’s guidance and personal control.

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  • 00:04:12 – David’s origins: Growing up in Australia and facing tragedy.

  • 00:04:41 – The shutdown: Why trauma creates hyper-logical mindsets.

  • 00:05:23 – The search for “Soft Skills”: Vulnerability and Authenticity.

  • 00:06:45 – Reconnecting with humanity to find true joy.

  • 00:07:01 – Goal Acceleration: How to get 5-year results in 2 years.

  • 00:07:27 – The “Accidental” Personal Growth program that changed everything.

  • 00:08:20 – Cracking the heart open: Transitioning from cynic to seeker.

  • 00:15:30 – Defining the Focus Hierarchy for the CEO and Entrepreneur.

  • 00:25:45 – The practical 25-minute sprint: How to reclaim your day.

  • 00:38:10 – Leadership through authenticity: Connecting with employees and family.

  • 00:46:15 – Final Thoughts: Loving God and your neighbor through your work.

Episode and Guest Frequently Asked Questions and Answers

Q: How can I achieve a 5-year goal in only 2 years?

A: According to David Wood, the “Focus CEO,” accelerating your results requires a shift from a “passenger” to a “driver” mindset. By implementing a Focus Hierarchy, you eliminate “shiny object syndrome” and “digging a hundred holes three feet deep.” When you commit to one deep path and align your monthly, weekly, and daily actions toward a single objective, you can achieve in 24 months what takes most people 60 months.

Q: What is the "Driver vs. Passenger" mindset in business?

A: The “Passenger” mindset is reactive, where your schedule and goals are dictated by external demands and distractions. The “Driver” mindset, as discussed by David Wood on the Remarkable People Podcast, is about radical ownership. It involves choosing your destination first and then reverse-engineering your focus to ensure every 25-minute block of work is steering you toward that specific goal.

Q: Why is "Radical Focus" important for high-performing entrepreneurs?

A: High performers often suffer from “over-capability,” leading them to chase too many ideas at once. Radical Focus is the discipline of saying “no” to good ideas so you can say “yes” to the best ones. David Wood explains that integrating this focus with emotional intelligence allows leaders to double their revenue while actually increasing their time off.

Q: How does childhood trauma affect leadership and productivity?

A: In this episode, David Wood shares how surviving a childhood tragedy led him to develop a hyper-logical, “left-brain” survival mechanism. While this drove early professional success, it created a “blind spot” in his leadership. True high performance is unlocked when a leader “rebalances” by reclaiming soft skills like authenticity and vulnerability, which are the real drivers of team connection and long-term impact.

Q: What is the best way to overcome "Shiny Object Syndrome"?

A: The cure is the Focus Hierarchy. Instead of jumping at every new opportunity, you filter every task through your primary objective for the month. David Wood recommends breaking your day into focused sprints where you decide the “one thing” that matters for the next 25 minutes, ensuring your actions are consistent with your long-term vision rather than short-term distractions.

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How to Take the Driver’s Seat and Achieve 5-Year Goals in 2 Years with David Wood

David Pasqualone:  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Remarkable People Podcast. We are eight years into this journey together in season 13 and today we have a Remarkable friend as you’re about to see David Wood. David, welcome to the show, brother.

David Wood: Thanks, Mate. I like your energy and congratulations.

Eight years in, in podcasting. That makes you O.G..

David Pasqualone: Yeah, I don’t know about that, but it’s been a great journey and I’m so thankful I’ve learned a ton, met incredible people such as yourself, and made friends all over the world with my listeners. So it’s been truly a Remarkable journey and I’m very thankful.

But today, ladies and gentlemen, we are about to hear from David Wood. He’s focused ceo. You’ll see on his hat if you’re watching this, even though I know most of our listeners are audio. We have a YouTube channel and a Rumble channel if you want to check it out. And David, if someone is gonna stick with this episode and listen [00:01:00] through this whole show is about not just what you achieved or overcame, but the practical steps of how you did it.

So we can too. So what do you guarantee our listeners that they’re gonna get by the end of this episode if they hang tight?

David Wood: I guarantee that you will. Be clear how much you are behind the driving wheel versus the passenger wheel of your life and business right now, and you’ll be very clear on how to get behind that driver’s seat and actually focus on a destination.

Because we, most of us including high performers, are so scattered and there’s such shiny object syndrome and so many things calling for our attention. We’re all digging for gold. Most of us are digging for gold three feet deep. We’ve got a hundred holes, three feet deep instead of going deep. And so I’ll talk today about how to actually choose what your month is about, what your week [00:02:00] is about, what your day is about, and what your next 25 minutes is about, so that you can be beyond the driver’s driver’s wheel and go to the destination that you’re excited about.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, and I agree with you. I think everything in life is balance. I think that’s the huge key. If you’re too far left, you’re too far, right? Both are insanity. But that down the center balance is what God talks about in the Bible. And a lot of people, some people have an intrinsic worldview, an extrinsic worldview, where they think I’m in control of everything, or God’s in control of everything, and I have nothing to do with it.

Where I think for all of us, there has to be a balance. So when you talk about getting in the driver’s seat and taking control of your life. I’m totally on board with that, as long as obviously we’re following God’s guidance. Right. So ladies and gentlemen, we’re gonna take a very short break, give you a great affiliate offer, and we come back.

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David Pasqualone: Alright, David, welcome back. Let’s do this quickly. Where are you from? What was your upbringing like?

David Wood: I’m from Australia and I had a pretty good childhood.

I, I still have great parents. Something that was different is we had a tragedy and I lost my little sister when I was seven years old. And I was there when it happened. It was a, it was a, a traffic accident. We didn’t know this at the time, but apparently one of the reactions to trauma can be that you shut down your emotional side ’cause that’s safer.

So I became very left brain, very cerebral, very logical. Came top of my school, got paid to go to college. Was successful in a number of different ways, but it took me until the age of 26. To realize that there was so much I was missing [00:05:00] out on like a lot of cerebral people. I was missing out on emotional intelligence, vulnerability, authenticity, integrity, a lot of the really important leadership skills and what some people call the softer skills.

And so I’ve spent the last 25 years since I realized that like, oh my God, I’m missing out on all these good things. I’ve spent the last quarter of a century catching up. Sitting with gurus, sitting with therapists, and doing my own really deep work and pushing the edges of human experience. So now I’m an unusual kind of a coach because I’m great with the with.

You need systems. You need to get on board. You need marketing, you need all that. All right, let’s do it. You need focus. I’m your guy, but also you want to talk about that your kids don’t talk to you or you’re having issues with your relationship, or you’re just not happy. I, I cover that too, so it’s a little bit unusual.[00:06:00]

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And it all intertwines right in life. You, you can’t live as an island in one side or the other. It’s all connected.

David Wood: Right.

David Pasqualone: But what are some of the tips then? I mean, obviously it’s complex and there’s depths, but some people are just wired to be analytical. Some people, like you said, trauma. Changes their personality completely.

And you add a little combination of both. So what were some of the things practically to help you become, say, I don’t wanna say emotional, like, oh, you’re crying when you watch a movie, but you’re more connected with humanity. And when you’re connected you can feel more pain, but you can also feel more joy.

So what were some of the things you did to reconnect and balance?

David Wood: Great. And, and I assume, you know, we’ll get at some point to how to focus and how to accelerate your results. Right. ’cause that’s the left brain stuff. That’s the stuff I got so good at initially. So we can, we can, I wanna [00:07:00] give people some tips on that. ’cause people are very hungry for how do I get there in two years instead of five.

David Pasqualone: Mm-hmm.

David Wood: Or how do I get there at the same pace, but also have. Two or three days a week off. And so I want to get to that. But I love your question. How did I rebalance? How, how did, no one’s ever really asked me that. The first thing is I accidentally did a personal growth program. I didn’t want to do it.

Someone said, oh, your wife should do this. Sounds like she could really use this. And as they talked about it, I’m like, I’ve never done any introspection. Let me check it out. And I nearly didn’t do it, David, because they all wore name tags and they all smile way too much. They’re all smiling all the time and name.

I’m like, this is some cult bullshit. But I said, no, I’m not signing up ’cause you can’t force me to do anything. And I went home and I signed up in my own time and I [00:08:00] thought I’ll, I’ll give it a shot. I was lucky enough that this was a really quality program. They were ready for people like me who were cynical and thought they were smarter than everyone in the room.

And the first one didn’t change my life, but I kind of accidentally again ended up doing their second program, and that one cracked my heart open. Hold

David Pasqualone: on before you get there, this is super important. You’re like, this is a life-changing moment and I’m interrupting you.

David Wood: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: But that obstacle. It seems in everything in life, things get worse before they get better, or you get to the top where there’s so much pressure.

And most people quit where it’s like if you just take one more step, you’re at the summit of the mountain and can see the world. What was the difference, David, that had you? You went to one touchy feely, fruity class with name tags and smiles. You didn’t want to be there, but what was it inside you or what happened that made you get to that next class?

David Wood: Yeah, that’s good. And I love how you’re [00:09:00] identifying the obstacle. The obstacle was arrogance and I already know. That was the obstacle. So to me, I was being offered a complete life change and I wasn’t willing to accept it ’cause it wasn’t inside my reality. What the reason I managed to get past it was a bit of luck.

Firstly, I, I I, I did that first program and they said, when you go back to work, someone’s gonna ask you if you’ve had a haircut because something will be different about you. You won’t know what it is and I, I swear that it’s exactly what happened. Someone’s like, you had a haircut? I’m like, alright, alright, I’m interested, but they’ve given us this 10 week program for free.

You do the course, come and practice for 10 weeks. And I’m like, I’ll do two or three and then I’m out. Well, I found myself in the first one. They’re asking who wants to volunteer to be a group leader? [00:10:00] Wasn’t even conscious. My hand was up and I was chosen before I had a chance to stop it. Wow. So I, so I volunteered to lead ’cause I’m interested in leadership and now I’m like, oh shit, now I’ve gotta do all 10 weeks of this bullshit.

And then halfway through the course, people were coming back from the second course and they were bouncing off the walls with energy. Enthusiasm lit up, motivated, and I said, I don’t know what you did to them, but I want that. And so that got me into the second program, and that’s where it was actually in the second program.

It was, I heard one of the teachers whispering to another one, and that changed my life. Someone was up on stage, they’re in tears. The whole room’s going nuts with a breakthrough that they’re happening. And the teacher said to Guy next to him. It just makes you cry, doesn’t it? And I was like, oh my God, there [00:11:00] are people who wanna make the world a better place.

I didn’t know that was a thing. So then I got interested, how do I make the world a better place? And and I got, I got into coaching because I heard if you did the third program, they would train you as a coach. And I had the experience of accidentally coaching people and changing lives during the seminar.

I’m like, this is, this feels good. How do I get more of that? So I went and did the third one, which changed my life again accidentally. ’cause I just wanted to be a coach. And then I started coaching through them and now it’s 26, 27 years in

David Pasqualone: and again. So I want to go back. I, when you go through anything in life.

Once you know it, like rocket science is easy once you learn it. Brain surgery is easy once you learn it, forgiveness, you know, that’s like one of those things. People are just let it go. But until you work through a [00:12:00] thousand different emotions and thoughts and feelings, it’s, you can’t just forgive, right?

So you’re going into this class, an analytic, and you’re at one plus one equals two, and everything’s structured right. What was it though, like, we just went through the story and how it happened with all the exterior and, and the, the whisper you heard and how you were having these revelations, so to speak, within yourself.

But what is the, I guess was there just a switch where you went from one plus one is two to oh. It’s not just one plus one is two, but there’s colors, you know, there’s feelings, there’s emotion. How did you transition For all of us? ’cause I am one of those analytical people who, who has a hard time with feelings.

Yeah. How did you transition to that, that world?

David Wood: Yeah. It, it wasn’t one moment suddenly I’m touchy feely. Right? It wasn’t that it’s been a [00:13:00] thousand, 5,000 moments, but I can highlight a couple of the big ones. One of them was hearing that guy. Realizing, oh wait, these people care. So that was important. Two, seeing that I didn’t know everything and there was a whole bunch of stuff, and I saw other people in touch with their emotions and I’m like, I’ve got some work to do.

Three, when I had a woman in my car one night, I gave her a ride home and she confessed to me something she hadn’t told anybody, and her life changed over a period of a week. Some big secret she’d had from her husband. She revealed it. She took a risk, put a marriage on the line, came back, floating six feet above the ground saying, we’re so in love now.

Everything’s been revealed. We’re authentic with each other. I was like, alright, I gotta, I gotta go further down this path. And then another big moment was my relationship wasn’t working [00:14:00] and I, I tried everything and I’d screwed it up eight times. I realized I can’t go back without a doctor’s note. Like I, I just can’t try this again without a guide to tell me how it’s gonna be different.

So I went to a psychiatrist and our family didn’t do that. You didn’t do that in Australia. Here it’s becoming way more acceptable. This is 25 years ago in Australia. I’m like, I don’t give a shit. And I think that’s key. I was willing to listen. About an area I knew nothing about and he changed my life.

He said, I think I can’t prove it, but I think that you’ve got a complicated grief reaction. You never grieve for losing your sister. I think you are a sensitive guy. You are having feelings, but you don’t know how to access them. And I think I can help you. And I’ll tell you, dude, I got, I got goosebumps right now.

I was supposed to go and smoke weed with my friends. [00:15:00] I was like 23 then. I said to them, you keep it. I was on the biggest natural high of my life that there was hope for me, and he gave me exercises. He had me watching movies. He had me go back and interview my parents about the death of my sister, my neighbors go and see her things, read books, things that started triggering and opening the floodgates after so many years of squashing it down.

Again, I don’t want people to think, oh, I just need to find that one thing. No. Landmark education opened me up to start to learn, to learn. Now, I was less arrogant. The therapy, I started to open me up to learn to feel. Then I found a guru and went and sat in his courses and started to feel more and more, and even this year.

I sometimes lead, sometimes participate in courses where we [00:16:00] practice sitting in a circle and speaking. This is what I’m feeling right now, and hearing you say that I notice this is what’s happening in my body. Somehow I found my way to a practice after all these years. So there are some big moments, but then it’s thousands of moments as you go down that path of reclaim.

That emotional side, if you don’t, if you’re not in touch with that.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. So now there’s obviously a thousand questions We can goes as deeper as shallow as you want, but

David Wood: I’m, I’m up for deep man.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, no, no, no. I know. But there’s,

David Wood: that’s my path.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. Yeah. So now we have your sister. You see her? In a traffic accident pass away.

You basically suppress all this emotion. You accidentally, unconsciously, but consciously go to a class and raise your hand and [00:17:00] you’re going through this process and you’re learning and you’re growing. So bring us between there and today. ’cause I don’t wanna skip anything in your life that you deem significant or you want to share.

That’ll help our listeners. So what, take us through that part, David.

David Wood: I think it was a series of teachers. Once you’re on the quest, you know, and people listen to this podcast, if they haven’t tuned out yet, there’s a chance that they’re on the quest. There’s a chance that they’re like, you know, I would like to be more relational.

I would like to be more aware of what’s going on with me. If I’m having a tough conversation, I at least like to navigate my own territory so that I, I know what’s happening. You might have your partner who wants you to be more emotionally available, or you just want to feel more or feel better. Once you’re on the quest, you start to find the teachers people.

I coach a lot of executives and business [00:18:00] owners. I think they find me out of the millions of other coaches because there’s a part of them that says, look, I want more money. I want the promotion. I want more time off. But I think I also want to grow. So let me go and find Davo. So I went and found people would suggest, Hey, I am going to this teacher.

I’m like, alright, I’ll go and check it out. And then I’d stick because it was uncomfortable and because if I kept sticking with it, I started to feel more connected than I ever had in my life. If you have, if you ever done an immersion course for like. Seven days, residential 10 days, there’s often this kind of a pink cloud and this amazing feeling of connectedness and community you can get.

It’s one of the reasons I did courses all the time. So Paul Lowe, who’s no longer teaching, was a big catalyst for me. The Human Awareness Institute is still going and they’re incredible for heart-centered things, [00:19:00] learning how to touch and feel. David Data was one of my teachers who is really good with man woman dynamics, learning how the masculine can be animated and the feminine the Morehouse is underground, but I’ll give him a shout out.

Lafayette morehouse.com really taught me about men and women and what women in particular want. And if you have the women in your life, be happy. Life’s gonna be really damn good. And if they’re not, and you’ve got all the attention on yourself, you’ve got society. And the last one that comes to mind is Byron Katie, who’s still teaching, still kicking.

And she taught me the worst thing that can happen to you is a thought. I didn’t know that. I thought it was life. I thought it’s like things happening. And I finally learned through Katie that. If I’m upset, [00:20:00] if I, if I’m like pissed against something or against something, it’s all about what I’m believing.

It’s got nothing to do with what’s happening. So you’ve now got my, my whole lineage. All the teachers, oh wait, there’s one more now. It was five years ago. I thought I knew everything there was to know about communication. ’cause I’ve studied it for 25 years and I teach it. I discovered authentic relating.

And my friend is one of the leaders in the world in authentic relating, and I was just like, yeah, I know all this shit. I’m not gonna go, oh my God. There is so many techniques like just revealing and checking for impact. Hey, I know I just said something. Oh, hang on Alexa. Thank you. Reminded to let my dog out.

Y you know, you say something, you never really know how it lands. You can check for impact. Hey, you know, I, I know I just fired you. And I, I imagine that’s really tough to hear. How is it to hear that? I, [00:21:00] what do you got to share? So many techniques that had been missing from my vocabulary. So that one I’ve I’m just, I’m, so it’ll it.

It teaches you how to slow down to the speed of connection, how to really listen and really say what’s happening. And I didn’t know that for 20 years, 15, 20 years. I didn’t know that I was doing well. I was charming. I was successful, but I was missing the people part. And most of us, we watch movies, we watch feel good movies to have that experience.

Of being inspired and having deep connection, but we can go deeper in our life like that if we have the tools.

David Pasqualone: I couldn’t agree more. And it’s listening to you and your journey, I think. I don’t think there’s any human, even our greatest master. You could pick any [00:22:00] art, any discipline, any profession, and there’s always more to learn.

And I know in my own life, the more I learn. The more I realize how little I know. Does that make sense? Yeah. So that’s what’s great about communication for you, for me, for everybody. There’s always more to learn and there’s always 10,000 things we know, but there’s a hundred thousand things we don’t. So that’s cool.

You’re still on that journey and you’re willing to learn.

David Wood: Yeah, and the first course I did that landmark education, the first thing they do on the whiteboard is they say, here’s what you know that you know. And then here’s what you know, you don’t know. You know, you don’t know how to do brain surgery, right?

And then there’s some stuff that you know that you don’t know. You know, that’s called unconscious competence. But there’s this huge area, you have no idea that you don’t know this stuff and this stuff and this stuff and this stuff. And they said, that’s where this course lives. [00:23:00] And I, and I do think that’s where coaching lives too, because you know what you know, but if you get a coach or a therapist or maybe a mastermind or some kind of structure outside yourself, which I had to learn to rely on, I had to learn to accept that.

If you can do that, then you can start to delve into and find those areas, those blind spots that you didn’t even know you could go looking for. So I find that exciting about courses in general and coaching specifically.

David Pasqualone: Absolutely. So where are you at today, Dave? And where are you headed next?

David Wood: Where am I at with respect to geography?

Just,

David Pasqualone: just life. What are you focused on now? Like talk about Focus, CEO.

David Wood: Oh, right. Well, I’ve been coaching for 20 something years. I doubt I’ll ever stop. I like working with business owners mainly. Because they got so much going on and they’re the leverage [00:24:00] point of everything. And I also do a lot of executive coaching.

It just kind of fell into my lap and you know, I wanna make a, a pitch to the left brained people listening your brain. If it’s anything like mine, it’s probably telling you I’ve gotta learn, focus, productivity, marketing, hiring, sales and I got a double revenue. I agree. I totally agree with all that, but if you’re listening to self-help at all, and if you’re listening to David’s podcast, I’m guessing you are, you probably also know that these things we’re talking about are gonna help you with that.

We’re talking about how to have more influence. We’re talking about how to have more empathy and curiosity. We’re talking about how to be more relational. You get those skills down. Then you are gonna have people want to work with you. You’re gonna have people want to go over hot coals for you. You’re gonna [00:25:00] have motivated staff who stick around.

You’re gonna be able to make that sale because you’re relational. So these things aren’t soft skills anymore. I think they’re hard skills that we need to learn. And if you’ve been following what’s happening with ai, a lot of the thought leaders are saying. As we go forward, it’s not your left brain stuff that’s gonna have you make money and have you be in demand because AI is gonna be able to do that.

What’s gonna have you stand out is the stuff that AI can’t do and what are those things, all the skills you and I have just been talking about, empathy, humor, wisdom, curiosity. These are the things that really make us human and more than ever I think we, we have to get awesome at that. ’cause AI’s gonna be doing everything else.

So that’s where I’m at actually. [00:26:00] I’m at continuing to practice authentic, relating and connecting ’cause it’s just good for the heart, it’s good for me. I am continuing to coach. I have drunk the AI Kool-Aid ’cause I’m a nerd. And I’m studying every single day to work out what I don’t know, what I don’t know about AI and helping my clients to bring it into their life and into their processes, and to just learn to use it for more than just a Google.

I’m building community. We’ve got 150 people now on our local WhatsApp thread and we, we run an event a couple times a month for free for the community where we practice these authentic relating skills and it’s, it fills up within 60 seconds of us posting the event now. So I just love seeing people’s soul connected and we’ve got a social thread now where people are always like, [00:27:00] Hey, come and join me for a movie.

Let’s do that. So. I apparently have a community gene and I really like building that. And I told you before we started recording, I’m so into pickleball right now and I love learning and I love mastering something. So I’ve been training for two years in pickleball and now I’m bringing what I’ve learned ’cause I know how to train fast.

And bringing that kind of focus to pickleball players and helping them slow things down to the speed of training. So that they can actually learn. And that’s really fun for me. Hosting big events with 32 people in a big warehouse, playing games, moving up, moving down. Oh. And I’m creating an app that basically allows chat GPT to join you on your toughest phone calls or Zoom calls.

You tell it. This is the skill I want you to help me with. Help me [00:28:00] be a great coach on this call. Help me be, help me close the sale on this call. Help me practice empathy on this call. And this is the only app I’m aware of in the world that can do that right now. And it’ll, it’ll it’ll pop into the private Zoom chat.

Hey, try validating their emotions before you jump to a solution here. Try, try a couple of questions here to understand more of what they’re, what they’re feeling. And it’s, it’s taking up so much of my time and energy and I, I love it. I just can’t imagine doing anything else.

David Pasqualone: Yes, and, and for our listeners what Dave’s talking about with ai.

It’s so true. The world is changing. I personally told my, the people I work with, I said, Hey, the cheese is moved. I’m a marketing and sales consultant, and the majority of what we do will be gone. Like traditionally, like how it’s [00:29:00] been done for years, even building websites, social media, marketing, all that stuff’s going by the wayside.

So I was like, we need to find the cheese. We need to find the, what’s new that we can bring value to the world, help our clients with and move forward. I said, ’cause we keep doing what we’re doing, we’re gonna be outta business in three to five years max. So it’s interesting what you’re saying, how you’re, you’re learning, but.

As a businessman, that’s the way you think and go, right? But as a human, there’s part of me that’s not scared but sad. It’s just so much of everything is being automated. And there’s so many roles that people are just mindlessly right now. They’re going to Gemini or chat, GPT, enter in their question hitting enter, and they’re literal eight hours of their jobs done in 18 seconds.

Right? So it’s like, I feel like we’re dumbing down society. Sometimes I just write. Now, because remember before you do marketing, you’re doing blog posts and [00:30:00] email blasts, and you’re constantly writing. That’s an art. It’s part of human communication. I feel like that’s dissolving with all the ai. So what are safeguards you put in place to keep yourself sharp, Dave?

David Wood: Oh dude, I don’t. I don’t know if I’m the guy to answer this question. It’s hard for me to under even understand the question. Like sometimes you’d ask Byron Katie like, Hey, if you give Steven a cup of coffee and he doesn’t drink it, how can you not be less happy than if he drank it happily? And Katie would be like, I don’t understand the question.

Give me a frame of reference. So for me. My brain is so active, and I’m trying not to swear for emphasis right now. My brain is so active looking at what can I do now that I have this intelligence on tap? What can I do? And I’m using my brain more than I ever have before. So [00:31:00] yeah, I’m, I’m probably gonna lose the skill of how to write marketing copy.

I wasn’t that great at it anyway I’ve just asked chat, GPT, write the funnel for my coaching thing and give me three specific emails and three specific text messages that I could do to follow up. Now I’ll make the decision. About whether it’s good enough or not. But where I’m using my brain is what do I ask chat GPT for and how am I going to market now?

And then I get all this from chat, GPT, and I don’t just rest on my laurels. I’m then like, well, is there a better way? What else could I do? And I’ve been coming up with stuff. I like creativity. It’s fun for me. IE even using ai. I didn’t know that you could ask six ais at once and get a consensus, get a synthesis of the answer.

I’m like, wow, okay. I didn’t know you could do that. I’ve [00:32:00] learned that. If it’s, are you

David Pasqualone: talking about perplexity or what tool do you do for that?

David Wood: It’s called chat hub.gg. Chat hub.gg. It’s 20 bucks a month. You can pick five. Of your favorite models, and the one prompt goes out to five and you get five answers.

Now, I’m rarely gonna read five answers, but then you click a button and it synthesizes it and takes the consensus of the ai ’cause one can make a mistake. So, I mean, that’s fascinating. So now I’m using that and it’s not like I, I’m not using it for Google. I spent six hours one day coming up with a prompt.

For my, my marketing plan, the prompt had to be so good and ask exactly the right questions. I spent six hours and used two ais going back and forth before I was happy with the prompt. Now that took a lot of brain power to work out with help, what to ask it for, and [00:33:00] then went and asked six ais, got the consensus and got the best of everything.

So I. Maybe some people are gonna dumb down. I can’t understand it. I’ve, I’ve learned to code now, and now I’m vibe coding, so I’m not actually doing the code, but I’ve learned how to get a very clunky, stupid genius to code. It’s not as easy as you think when you’ve got a really big app. Mm-hmm. I’m learning how to do that.

So for me. I’ve never listened to the news. I’ve got a custom news briefing every morning where I’m finding out what’s happening. I’ve never been so alive and so excited for, for something to just work out what’s possible. Now I’m running my pickleball group using ai, and it hasn’t. You think, oh, well, you got nothing to do.

No, I spent eight hours on Sunday. Working out the rating [00:34:00] of everyone, according to my algorithm that I came up with ai. So it’s not like it doesn’t take intelligence for someone to use it. I, I say, I don’t even think I should say this. I’m hoping and imagining that people are gonna go, well now that that’s easy.

What’s next? If I can do that in 30 minutes and I got two hours left. Great. Now, how do I get that celebrity endorsement for my product? Again, I go to ai, get some ideas, and then go and make a hundred phone calls. I can’t, I can’t see me going to sleep, so I don’t understand the idea that other people are gonna go to sleep.

Wouldn’t you have to find something to stimulate your brain and create what’s next? What can PII do see,

David Pasqualone: see for you and me. I’m the same way. I’ll spend hours just discovering better ways to do things and what power is [00:35:00] it hiding and how can we harness it? And I’m not better than anybody in the world, but it’s okay.

For instance, when the microwave came out, it’s like, man, we can take a three hour meal and cook it in 20 minutes. So now we have all that time to do something productive. But people didn’t, they just watched more tv. Right? They got fat. So I feel like professionally, did you ever see the movie Wally? The cartoon?

David Wood: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: And everybody’s just fat drinking their shakes and porking up. Do you remember that?

David Wood: I, no, I’ve got it on my computer. I wanna watch it again, but. I It’s been

David Pasqualone: long. Yeah. They’re all in a spaceship and they’re just watching TV through their glasses and they’re drinking their protein shake and they get so fat and lazy.

They don’t do anything but entertain themselves and they can’t even walk anymore. I feel like sadly, the masses are just gonna make it. Ooh, how can [00:36:00] I do less work? But instead of reinvesting that time like you are. They’re just gonna be like, I’m gonna do nothing. And that’s where it’s, it’s not, I’m not like, oh, it’s terminator’s gonna come over and take over.

Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. But I’m like, you, let’s harness the power and keep moving forward. But I feel like we’re the, we’re the minority. Most people are just like, Hey, I can do this in five minutes and screw off the rest of the day. I don’t feel like they’re using it how you are. I mean, are you seeing most of your peers using it like you.

Or are you seeing them just using it as a hack and moving on?

David Wood: Well, some of my peers, like at the, at the higher level, one of them just went and gave a talk on how to use AI to nasa. So yeah, I mean, some of my peers are, are diving into it.

David Pasqualone: Hmm.

David Wood: I’m, I’m not in touch with a lot of my peers anymore. I’m kind of here in Asheville, North Carolina, just doing my thing.

But I’m, I’m, my part of my job is to beat the. The box, the [00:37:00] soapbox, repeat the drum, stand on my soapbox and encourage my clients to stretch themselves and think, how could I use it? Like most people haven’t realized AI could help them come up with some great gift ideas. That’s a really hard thing to do.

And so you can do that. I want the AI to push back. Me when I make a decision in the day, like, like I’ve set my targets and I decide I’m not gonna do this, I’m gonna do that. I wanted to push back and say, hang on, you said you’re gonna do that and I, and I’ve got your goals for the year, for the month, for the week, for the day.

And this is part of your sabotage. You tend to have shiny object syndrome. Isn’t this a shiny object? I want it to do that. Now you think that doesn’t take intelligence? It can’t do that out of the box right now. It’s gonna take a lot of crafting and setting up projects and files. I’m a nerd, so I’ll do it.

So even using ai, [00:38:00] how can you use it better? Go and take a, take a course. You have to, you have to, you, you can’t, I mean, if you wait three years and then take a course, I really think you’re gonna, you’re gonna wish that you hadn’t.

David Pasqualone: I

David Wood: agree.

David Pasqualone: I

David Wood: agree. Sure. There’ll be, there’ll be some Luddites that might be like, look, I’m gonna be on my farm.

And my mom said, look, I’m 84. I hope, I hope to never have to learn this. And I’m like, okay, you can. But for everyone else, it’s like electricity just got invented and now there’s all these machines using electricity. And you’re like, nah, I’m good. I’m just going to find, buy some ice and keep my stuff cold.

I think you got, anyway, that’s me. But I’m a nerd. I’m left brain. Look, I know, I know we’re getting close on time and I was wondering if I can give people some practical, just some quick practicals if they wanna like take this conversation further.

David Pasqualone: [00:39:00] Absolutely. That’s it. The focus, the business go right in.

How can we

David Wood: Great.

David Pasqualone: Stay focused and achieve more.

David Wood: Great. So since we’ve talked about communication today and emotional intelligence. Being relational. I’ll say if, if, if listeners are thinking, I do wanna learn that, I do want to go deeper. I don’t think a book is the way to do it. There there is a, a company called Authentic Relating Training, and it might be authentic relating training.org.

Well, they’ll do an online course or you could fly and go and do a, a two day course with them. Really good stuff. You’re gonna learn some tools that’ll serve you for the rest of your life, and I really think they’ll help you make money. If you want custom work, you want some coaching you probably don’t want.

Coaching on how to feel more. Some people might, but you might want coaching on how to motivate your staff or how to get [00:40:00] people on board or how to set boundaries, how to have people be accountable. Happy to help you with that and I’ll, I’ll tell you where to find me in the first step for that. But the thing, most business owners come to me for at least as a starting point, and then we find there are six or seven other things that are gonna add value is.

They’re scattered and their productivity is probably about a quarter of what it can be. It’s not complex to fix that. It takes work and it takes usually about three months to get you some really good habits and that’ll serve you for the next 30, 40 years. So if you’re interested. Working on your, on your business, you want a business coach.

You are already up and running. You’ve got a product that’s successful and you know that you’re leaving money on the table. The way to get in touch with me is gotta focus CEO and fill in the [00:41:00] quiz. Click apply for a session and I’ve got a really great intake form that even if you don’t wanna work with me, still go and fill in this quiz.

’cause it’ll give you a quick assessment and you’ll work out what needs to be worked on in your business less than 10 minutes. So highly encourage you to do that. If you are interested in a session with me, I, I’ll do a quick call with you. I don’t charge for that ’cause it’s how I find the right people.

The next step after that form, it’ll say. Click to schedule on Davos calendar and I’ll see it at my calendar and I’ll review your results and we’ll see if we’re a fit. We may not be, I may send you to someone else. If we are a fit, I’ll set you up with coaching and we go month by month. So there, there’s my whirlwind, practicality if you want to take another step on any of the things we talked about today.

David Pasqualone: Now let’s do this. There could be somebody on the fence. They’re like, Dave made a lot of sense. I don’t know though. [00:42:00] I’ve heard this so many times, so many promises. If there was something that our listeners are gonna take right now, if you said, Hey, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

If you’re not sure, take this. This is your first step. What would that first step be, Dave? So people can see, eh, that did help

David Wood: the highest. Impact Thing that I can think of is two things. Book a session with me to see if coaching is actually gonna change your life, or go and register for the landmark forum, landmark education.com.

The landmark forum. I don’t get commission from that. Coaching is custom. We gonna be tailored to exactly what you need. Landmark Forum is like add water, it’s, it’s packaged but both are very powerful. I, those are the two strongest leverage [00:43:00] actions I can think of you taking. And something I wanted, I thought you were gonna go somewhere else with your question.

And it had me realize the thing that got me to open and change and grow out from the traject trajectory that I had. Was being willing to take input, being willing to say, alright, I’m gonna trust that you’ve got something. I’m gonna try it out and see if it works. And I’m just so grateful that I ever did.

And I think all the top performers in the world, I think this is true, are working with coaches. They want input. They’re like, tell me what I’m missing. Tell me where I’m being dumb here. Tell me the obvious thing that I should have put together, but I haven’t done yet. I think everyone’s doing it so that there’s my plug and I trust if you’re leaning as away from that.

I trust that that’s right for where you are right now. And if you’re leaning as a yes and you show up on my, in my Zoom call, then I’ll trust that that was right. [00:44:00]

David Pasqualone: Awesome. Well, David, thank you for your time today. Before we wrap this up, is there anything from your birth through today that we missed or something you want to end the show with for our listeners before we close?

David Wood: No ma’am. I don’t think I can top what I just said. I just want say, this is what I’ve done. Maybe 400 podcast interviews, maybe more. And this will be one of my favorites.

David Pasqualone: Oh man. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And ladies and gentlemen, like our slogan says, don’t just listen to this great content Dave brought you, but do it.

Repeat it each day, form a good habit so you can have a great life in this world, but more importantly, an turn to come. So I’m David Pasqualone. This is our Remarkable guest, David Wood. And David, thank you again so much, brother, for being here today. [00:45:00]

David Wood: My pleasure, Mike. Really good to see you.

David Pasqualone: Absolutely. And ladies and gentlemen, share this with your family and friends.

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