Surviving the Unsurvivable: Mary Lyn Hammer’s Decade-Long Battle with Lyme Disease

Surviving the Unsurvivable: Mary Lyn Hammer’s Decade-Long Battle with Lyme Disease

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David Pasqualone: Hello, friend. Welcome to this week’s episode of The Remarkable People Podcast. Today we have a very special guest who you’re about to hear had illness in her life that during our generation, we were told, tough luck.

You have Lyme’s disease, you’re going to painfully suffer and die for the rest of your life. But she found a way to not only identify what she had, but how to recover fully, and I believe her daughter did too, which you’ll hear about in the story. [00:01:00] So at this time, let’s welcome Mary Lyn Hammer. Mary Lyn, thank you for being here.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Thank you for having me. I’m very excited to be here.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. Did I get that intro with you and your daughter getting Lyme’s disease? Yes.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah, she was born with it,

David Pasqualone: man. So that is something that’s, I’ve had several friends with Lyme’s disease. I was critically ill a couple times, and they’re like, do you have Lyme’s disease?

Do you not? So I have so many questions and I know our listeners can’t do too. So let’s jump into this episode and where we’re going to start is everything that’s happened to us, good, bad, ugly pretty ugly. It makes us who we are today. So let’s start with your origin story. Where were you born? What was your upbringing like, and we’ll just chronologically walk through to today.

Mary Lyn Hammer: I was born in Butte, Montana, and grew up there. I have an adopted family and, I grew up in a pretty abusive home actually. And so I left there the day after I [00:02:00] graduated from high school and and then I found my birth family in 2007 and that’s a pretty crazy story. So because of my anger, you talk about turning tragedies into triumph.

So I used to go up on the ski hill and take my anger out on the mountain. And so I became this kind of in insane skier and going into getting Lyme disease, I was rated in the top five to 10% of skiers in the world and I was still doing extreme skiing with the Warren Miller skiers when I was 38 years old.

And that’s when I got pregnant with my daughter. And so I went from, top athlete to. I could barely walk up a flight of stairs and nobody could give me answers.

David Pasqualone: And a lot of times our lives, the emotion we carry makes us physically ill. So you can feel free. Talk about your, [00:03:00] your in an abusive home.

You found your birth family. Talk about that. That’s, there’s, I’m sure that all of that, even though it didn’t maybe cause Lyme’s disease, it didn’t help your body recover.

Mary Lyn Hammer: I actually feel like it gave me a lot of strength that I might not have otherwise had, because I had to survive on my own and I had to, figure out ways to survive.

And, I did a Tony Robbins date with Destiny a couple years ago and I had gone through, decades of. Therapy and healing about what my family did. And so he started with a meditation and said, go back to your first memory. And I was like, I’ve done this a lot, so I’m just going to open up for whatever comes in.

And what came in was God. And he showed me how much it hurt him to allow me to be hurt during my life like I was so that I would [00:04:00] fulfill my purpose for being here. And one of those purposes is I help I’ve been an advocate for higher education, specifically for at-risk kids because that’s how I got away from my family.

My education gave me the ability to not be dependent on them and to live away from them, which broke the cycle of abuse. And going through what I went through with the Lyme disease. It’s the same thing is that by healing myself and my daughter, I have come up with ways to heal many people and, with the disease that most people still think there’s no cure for.

And and I know that there is, and I had some pretty big purposes for being here and, so God showed me it was really emotional for me, but he showed me how much it hurt him to allow me to get hurt like I was, and to go through the [00:05:00] illness like I did so that I could fulfill those purposes.

And I’ve had that core belief most of my life. I’ve, I do personal development training and I work with the at-risk kids, and I’ve always told people that you can use the tragedies in your life as a, as an excuse for your behavior. Or as a reason for making a change. And so I’ve had that, I had that belief before I had that experience and date with Destiny, but it has molded who I am.

And we can let these things make us weaker or we can let them make us stronger, but they definitely have an influence in our lives. And it is true that emotions get stuck in our bodies. So the other side of that is in line, when I’m working with patients I have very deep conversations about this because if you breakly into two different words, it’s lie and me representing what [00:06:00] lie am I telling myself?

And a lot of times people with Lyme disease are punishing themselves, and so they have this belief that they deserve something lesser than, having an extraordinary life. And only they can answer that question. And the same thing happens with many chronic diseases, especially cancer like cancer is typically tied to anger.

Lyme disease is really about telling yourself a lie that you don’t deserve better. But in order to heal that, the person has to identify whatever that is and the source of that, and choose out of believing that. So healing from Lyme disease is not just physical healing, it’s also spiritual and emotional healing.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And for our listeners around the world, I know not all of you come to our show with a biblical worldview, but that’s how I come at it. And Marilyn, that’s Mary Lyn. That’s how she, I believe comes at it. So when we talk [00:07:00] about God, like she, thank you so much, Mary Lyn, for sharing that transparently, that God loves us and if he allows something to happen, like I was just reading Job, if he allows same to do something to us or one of the fallen angels, one of the demons, there is a reason that’s going to help us long term and it’s going to glorify him.

And he is not evil, he is not selfish. He is good. It’s Satan. That’s bad. It’s Satan. That’s a scumbag. It’s Satan that causes all the pain. But God let his own, were his children too. But God let Jesus die on the cross who is completely innocent. But that sacrifice allows us. To obtain forgiveness and mercy and healing and grace and to be with him in eternity.

So God is always good and like you got emotional just thinking about his goodness. And that’s great to see that you’ve have that relationship and you found that piece. Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: It is. It’s a very deep part of me and it’s always [00:08:00] been there, I know I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for God.

And when I was going through my healing over the childhood abuse, my counselor was a Christian counselor and she said, you’ve never gone through an angry stage. You’ve not been angry with God. And my response was, why would I be angry with God? I wouldn’t be here without him. So I’ve always had a very strong core belief.

And I have conversations with him all the time, and truly a lot of the answers that I. That I have received about many things, about Lyme disease, about e even COVID. I have some breakthrough information about COVID that I just sent up to the West Wing to get to RFK Junior. But it’s not me.

It’s, God puts me in circumstances and introduces things to me that, that leads me to solutions. And that’s what my whole journey with Lyme disease was like right from the beginning. And I couldn’t have [00:09:00] done it on my own. And even when I work with people and I’m, a lot of it is intuition because Lyme mutates.

So I just listen, I pray and I listen and then I follow whatever comes through because it’s not me that’s healing them. It’s God. And, so that’s a very big part of it. And for people who need solid answers that are always based on data, it’s harder to heal them. There’s a lot of data behind what I’ve figured out.

However, there’s things that, there’s just scientific evidence coming out now about things that I figured out in 2006 when I had Lyme.

One of the, it was probably a little later than that, so I was at a conference in Hilton Head in 2000 and I, it was my first month of pregnancy when I got bit by the tick and.

I didn’t have a bullseye. I didn’t have a [00:10:00] rash. It was my first trimester of pregnancy, so a lot of the symptoms were masked because of, people were like were you tired? Of course I was. It was my first trimester, so a lot of the,

David Pasqualone: I’ve never been pregnant, but I’ve been around pregnant women.

I have two kids, so I hear

Mary Lyn Hammer: that.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: So a lot of the people

David Pasqualone: tired when they’re pregnant.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah. And a lot of the symptoms were masked by that. Were you nauseous? Were you this, were you, it was like yes. And those are all symptoms of pregnancy. And then my health started going downhill and Elizabeth was born with it.

But it took them six and a half years to figure out that I had Lyme disease and I went. From doctor to doctor, I couldn’t get answers. And then they kept saying at your age, and I’m like, I’m 40, what are you talking about? This my forties, like I don’t wanna live to 60,

David Pasqualone: yes. And

Mary Lyn Hammer: I’m ready to turn 65. And I ran circles around people my half my age and but at that point I, I just thought, what are you talking about? I just had a baby. I’m fine. [00:11:00] Yes. Otherwise. I just kept searching. And so it took six and a half years to diagnose me.

And at that I went to a specialist clinic and their intake was three hours long and there was a new doctor at the clinic who was from the East coast. And he was, he hadn’t started work yet. He was there filling out his personal paperwork, and he heard them talking about my case and he said, I’d like to sit in on this case.

And about 20 minutes into the interview he said, I know what you have. And he goes, but keep going. So the other doctors kept asking questions and at the end and it was a huge intake, and at the end of it he said, can you feel your feet? And I said, no. And he said, how long have this, how long has it been like that?

And I said five years. He said, do you have a migraine? And I said, yes. And he said, how long have you been like that? And I’m like, oh, about five years. [00:12:00] He said, why haven’t you put any things on your, any of these things on your questionnaire? And I said I’ve had it for so long that I don’t think about it.

I was a single mom. I I own my own business and so I just kept going. And, I was a professional dancer and a professional athlete when you do those things you get hurt and you keep going. You just have a different outlook on life. And so failure wasn’t an option.

And so he said, I, you have Lyme disease, and I had heard of it. I didn’t really know what that meant. And and then he asked about my daughter, and she was five years old at the time, and that, that was the hardest news I’ve ever heard. When he said it can be passed in utero, and she had some of the symptoms not as severe as mine were, but.

It was heartbreaking, [00:13:00] when your child is sick and you just have this desperate feeling of what can I do to help them? And that’s, that was definitely a driving force for me. I have a zest for life, and I love life. I love experiences. I love meeting people. I love helping people.

I love learning and so I have a very strong zest for life already. And then when you layer that with your child is sick and what can you do about it, that I, it’s hard to explain if you haven’t gone through it yourself. Most parents can probably relate to it when their child gets really sick with a cold or the flu or something and you just wanna stop it for them.

But when it goes on for years

It’s just such a desperate feeling. And

David Pasqualone: it can be hopeless. It’s exhausting. And then the doctors don’t help. They, yeah. They have a profession instead of a practice. And when they don’t find something that’s two plus two is four, they’re like, oh, you’re making it up.

[00:14:00] Or, your daughter’s not really sick. She’s mimicking your behavior. It’s just a, they just make up all the psychological crap instead of focusing on actual medicine.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Oh, for sure. Yeah. And you’re a hypochondriac. It’s you know what? That just happened overnight because I wanted to stop skiing.

That’s, no, that’s not in my personality at all. And and a lot of people are tagged with these false impressions because of what they go through. When you’re that sick every single day, it’s hard. It’s really hard. And so I agreed to start treatments right away.

And it was brutal. I was getting 12 anti or 12 IVs a week. Was that

David Pasqualone: chelation therapy or what did they do to

Mary Lyn Hammer: No, it was vitamin C the infusions that build up your immune system, some of it was antibodies. I don’t know what all is in there, but I know some of them were Meyers cocktails, which [00:15:00] is a combination of things to build your immune system.

I did do some blood transfusion type treatments with ozone. I did hyperbaric treatments. I was taking about 300 pills a day at one point. I was doing injections, inject the IVs and injections were some of the first things they did and the injections were. Buyin, which is a lipid-based antibiotic.

And it’s very thick. And so you have to use very large needles. And I was on the road all the time because of my business. My salesperson looked at it and said she thought it was a harpoon because it was a 16 gauge needle. Like you can’t just poke it in, you have jab it in and it’s so thick. I would be leaning against the wall or leaning against a cabinet trying to get the strength to push it in.

’cause it was 10 ccs at a time, twice a week. It was brutal.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And so let’s stop and [00:16:00] talk about that because a lot of people view. Lyme’s disease. Some people don’t think it’s real, some people think it is real. Some people think it’s incur, incurable. Some people think it is curable and you live through it and you’ve come out the other side.

So my first question to bring our audience around the world, whether them or their loved ones or someone they know might be struggling with lys at this point in 2026, is there a definitive test you can take that says yay or nay if you have Lyme’s disease? Because like you said, it is a painful, long process to go through treatment and it’s like the rabies, if you get bit by something with rabies, you don’t wanna go through the treatment unless you have to.

And Lyme’s disease is worse. So is there a definitive test that’s accurate these days as far as

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So is there a definitive test that’s accurate these days as far as

Mary Lyn Hammer: there’s I test with an energetic device and it gives me a picture of everything going on in the body. It’s a miracle, and I can figure things out [00:19:00] very quickly from that, and I have to look for patterns.

But I get the I get the information right away and I share it with the client right away. There’s a test called genics and they use blood samples for that. And that goes more of a DNA level type of tests. You also have to test for all of the common co-infections like Babesia, Bartonella.

There’s numerous co-infections. And if you, most people when they get a bullseye or rash, they know it’s Lyme disease and they can treat it right away, but it, if you don’t get it right away it is totally outta control. Because it, it mutates into 14 different life forms that I have found.

David Pasqualone: And so at this point, you’ve already had it for years.

Your daughter was born with it, and she’s [00:20:00] about five or six years old. You’re sick, you’re at these daughters, he says you have Lyme’s disease and he starts putting you this seriously heavy treatment.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Where does your life go from there?

Mary Lyn Hammer: I it, it was rough. And he said, when, are you sure you wanna sign up for these treatments?

And he said, it will be rough. And he said, you’ll have days when you can’t walk. You’ll have days when you can’t talk, and you’ll have days when you just wanna die. And he was 100% correct. I remember one morning when, I was making lunch for my daughter and she was in kindergarten and I collapsed and I couldn’t get up.

And she came out and found me lying on the floor in the kitchen. And, we, it was just two of us and I had a nanny to help me. And so when Lupe got there thank God for Lupe and her [00:21:00] family. They took care of me through this whole ordeal. We all got in the car and went to the doctor’s office and started me on IVs and things like that.

And it’s mostly from the reactions of the Lyme dying that caused this. So when. When you have Lyme releases neurotoxins on a regular basis. And that’s why people get to the point where they have a hard time thinking and functioning because their body is so toxic that it’s not working right.

And then it becomes swollen. So when you have those toxins going on in your brain, it’s called foggy thinking.

And it’s your toxic load. If you’ve ever done a cleanse and you don’t have a carrier to take the toxins out, you experience that. If you do a three day cleanse, you go through a day where you’ve got bad headaches and your nose is running and you might have a fever and those type of thing, you take those symptoms and magnify them, a hundred fold, a thousand fold.

And that’s what it’s like having Lyme [00:22:00] disease every single day. And then when you kill the Lyme, it’s like any living organism. When even when people die, they. It’s gross to think about, but they lose their body fluids and their, like their pee, their poo, their, everything comes out when they die.

The same thing happens with Lyme disease. So it’s released on a regular basis when it’s alive and when you start killing it, it’s massive amounts of toxins. And if you aren’t, if your detox pathways are not working properly, or if they get overloaded, it’s called her Alzheimer’s reaction. And that’s a medical term for toxic overload.

And it can even be dangerous, like life threatening if it gets too high. So all of that has to be managed when you’re going through this process. So some of the, protocols indefinitely. The protocols that I use address that. In fact, [00:23:00] when I start working with some somebody, the first thing I do is all of these detox programs with them because I wanna get the toxins that are already in their body, out of their body before we start killing the disease.

Because it, it ramps up when you kill the pathogen. So we get everything working properly and the detox pathways, which are your lymphatic system, your kidney and livers get, get all of that clean before you even start killing the pathogens so that the body doesn’t become too overwhelmed.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And I wanna talk about this too. You mentioned toxic and how evasive lys is, and it doesn’t really matter how it started. But it is very interesting to me. I’ve known friends personally who I watched go through the IVs and the pain and the suffering, and pretty much even their fingernails hurt.

We used to joke, I had a friend Les, and he’s I’m like, does this hurt? [00:24:00] Does this hurt? I’m like, okay, does your fingernail hurt? It’s that’s probably the only thing on me that doesn’t hurt. Or he’s today my fingernail hurts and we try to joke, but I knew he was in agony.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: But I remember doing research then, and I’ve heard it from a lot of people, that Lyme’s disease was a manmade bio weapon out of Plum Island, New York. Is that your understanding as well, or have you just, you don’t care where it came from, you just wanna know how to beat it?

Mary Lyn Hammer: No. It, and that, that’s one of the reasons it mutates like it does because it was a bio weapon and originally it was used during the Vietnam War and.

So it, it I believe, similar to COVID, I believe the same thing. ’cause I also have watched what that does on my energetic device, so I know a

David Pasqualone: quite

Mary Lyn Hammer: a bit about it more than what’s in the public view. That it didn’t kill people as quickly as they wanted it to. Yeah. And many of our soldiers were subjected to that.

But the first case is documented in the [00:25:00] United States were seven children in the forest around the laboratory.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: And that was the beginning. And that’s why there’s so many people up in Lyme Connecticut area and the east coast that have Lyme disease because it got out of the lab.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

And they don’t know if it was ladies and gentlemen, conspiracy theory is something that as soon as you talk about something that the mainstream media doesn’t want to hear or a liberal doesn’t want to address, they live you as a conspiracy theorist. But it’s not conspiracy if it’s factual. And the facts point, years, like years of research that out of Plumb Island, Lyme’s disease came and then the West Nile virus and other biological weapons.

So what Mary Lyn’s talking about, this isn’t just her opinion. Again, my opinion and her opinion is it was manmade and I. Real science and data supports that. you know, you’re not going to see that on CNN. So let’s go [00:26:00] back. Now you meet this doctor or group of doctors, you’re going through literally, like you said, 16 gauge needles, and you don’t look like you’re a six foot eight lumberjack.

So that’s huge. And you’re a little vain and you’re treating yourself to the point of where you can’t get outta bed at times. From that point to when you started turning the corner, it’s flushing the toxins out. You’re getting better, and how you’re not going financially broke. That’s another thing.

Oh, because it’s so expensive.

Mary Lyn Hammer: It took years and years to pay off the debt from this. Yeah, every time they would tell me something, I would research it and I’m a researcher anyway, like I just have this. Curiosity about everything. And I love learning, so every time they would tell me something, I’d go and research it.

’cause it wasn’t just me, it was my daughter and she wasn’t getting the IVs and that type of thing. I, and she was one of the reasons I bought the energetic device. And I would treat her for three days and treat myself for three days and then take a day off. [00:27:00] Actually, that’s good point. When she was,

David Pasqualone: that’s a good point.

Some people aren’t parents yet. Some people haven’t seen their child sick, some people haven’t been sick themselves. But for those of you listen to Mary Lyn, you might be so exhausted that you’re willing to throw the hair Mary with your life and go all in. And if you die. Hey, I’m with the Lord.

And if I live great, I can tell people about it afterwards. But you had way more vested interest because you needed to survive to see your daughter healed, correct?

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. So you had a much more motivation than just someone you weren’t suffering alone. You had your daughters by your side. Yeah.

So from the point when you guys started this journey or when you started to feeling good, how long did that take?

Mary Lyn Hammer: It was about two years. And, during that, after I got this energetic device we had the IV room we used to call it, where many Lyme patients, they were all adults. We would go to get our iv so we’d all be in the same room.

So then I’d be like, can I run a test on [00:28:00] you, to other people in the room. And that’s how I started seeing patterns that led to solutions. Like one of the things that I figured out through the energetic device was that everybody in the room resonated for tuberculosis. It was a mutation. It wasn’t full-blown tuberculosis.

And so I agreed to do a TB protocol, and we used streptomycin shots a half a cc, twice a week. And I was still dancing at that point. I did performance dancing as a team team sport. And one of my doctors was my dance partner. And the die off was so bad. I smelled like a rotting animal.

It was just horrific. And we were doing a chacha dance and every time I lifted my arm I’d be like, I am so sorry, because it was horrible. And, but the infection rate [00:29:00] came down significantly. And

David Pasqualone: now when you say infection rate, how did you test it? Were they blood tests? How were you keeping progress measurements?

Mary Lyn Hammer: With my energetic device.

David Pasqualone: Okay. And you keep saying energetic device is that the name of it? Is it something you invented?

Mary Lyn Hammer: It’s a scanner and what I used back then is different than what I use now. What I use now is called an AO scanner by sox. And ’cause I can have, I have it on a that it’s a phone size device that I have.

You can put it on computers or pads or whatever, but I travel with it, so I’ve got it on it’s a phone size and and then I was documenting all these patterns. So really it’s about the pattern. It’s not really one reading, it’s a pattern of readings that allows me to figure out what the next move is because.

Lyme mutates. And it doesn’t mutate in the same order for everybody. So you have to look at the mutation, you have to look at the [00:30:00] co-infections, you have to look at how it’s affecting the body, and then figure out your next move. And because these pathogens are intelligent, you have to outsmart them.

If your doctor puts you on doxycycline for six months, he is doing you such a dis disservice because it’s a very toxic drug and the Lyme mutates, and as soon as it mutates, that’s no longer an effective treatment.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Like you have to keep changing it up and outsmart pathogen. Yeah. And so that’s what I could see with this device.

And then the the tuberculosis was common. High levels of mercury was common. Doing chelation was important in getting the heavy metals out and heavy metals. Create an environment that weakens your immune system. And so it’s important to get those out because it, every little thing that adds up, that [00:31:00] slows down your immune system, affects your ability to heal.

So it might be food allergies and people with compromised immune system ends up end up having a tremendous amount of food allergies, environmental allergies, toxins anything that weakens your body. If you’re constantly eating junk food instead of something that supports your health, that weakens your immune system, viruses go crazy when your immune system is compromised.

Like my first viral panel, I had eight to 14 times the normal load for every single virus. And I ended up, my doctor asked me to go pick up some products ’cause he didn’t have time to do it. And when I got to the warehouse, there was a bottle on the receptionist desk. And I said, what’s this? And she says, oh my gosh, you need to know about this.

And it’s an antiviral supplement. I sell it, it’s my top [00:32:00] selling supplement. And it’s also what I used for COVID. I had two products that I used when people, when I helped people right away, their symptoms were gone in two to three days.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: And that’s one of the products. So it’s a fabulous product.

It’s under $50. But that’s one of the thing, and that’s why I was saying I had these god insights where. I just happen to be asked to go pick up the supplements and it happened to be sitting on the receptionist desk. Like things like that don’t just happen. I was led to answers.

David Pasqualone: Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: And it’s very safe. I haven’t found any contra indi contraindications for that particular supplement. It’s fabulous.

David Pasqualone: And what was it, what was that supplement?

Mary Lyn Hammer: It’s called Humma Cell.

David Pasqualone: Humma Cell, okay. And is this stuff from the electric device to the humma cell? Is this stuff they can get on your website?

Do they go on Amazon? Where was the best place?

Mary Lyn Hammer: [00:33:00] It’s not sold on Amazon. You have to be professional to carry it. It is on my website and the, I do scans for people. They’re comprehensive. And then I use that when, throughout the whole treatment for when I’m working with somebody because like I said it mutates so you have to follow it.

And I test every two weeks when I’m working with somebody.

David Pasqualone: Now, how

Mary Lyn Hammer: do you test through the internet?

David Pasqualone: Do you send them a device while you’re working with them or do you

Mary Lyn Hammer: They can get a device and a lot of people do after I’ve been working with them for a while if they have multiple family members.

But I have to teach them what to do and then they can also treat themselves. So if you look at it like everybody has a unique energetic signature and it’s like a phone number. It’s the easiest way for people to understand. It’s once you are in the device with your phone number, your unique signature

It can dial you up no matter where you are, just like a phone number can’t. [00:34:00] And then it reads you energetically, and it says, you’ve got COVID infections or you’ve got bacterial infections, or you’ve got e coli or staph infection, or, whatever it is, it analyzes every tissue in the body and the scans that I do are $500.

However, if you had all of the tests that are included in one scan and you did that in a laboratory, it would be thousands and thousands of dollars and you get the answer right away with this.

David Pasqualone: So

Mary Lyn Hammer: are you saying

David Pasqualone: medical testing is expensive?

Mary Lyn Hammer: Huh?

David Pasqualone: I said, are you saying that medical testing in America is expensive?

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah, that was,

David Pasqualone: that was sarcasm.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Totally sarcasm. It’s just, it’s totally outta control. And, energetic medicine was widely used going into the 1920s and thirties, and then Rockefeller along, with his cronies at the time. Demonized energetic medicine, chiropractic medicine, homeopath, white therapy medicine.

David Pasqualone: [00:35:00] Yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: CBD was in 70% of the supplements back then vitamin D because it kept people healthy. And he did a whole campaign to take away healthy options for keeping people well. And then he introduced, a bunch of medications that had petroleum based because he owned oil companies and.

They had the byproduct, which was unhealthy, that they wanted to get rid of. So they started putting it into medication. Petroleum jelly, like Vaseline.

David Pasqualone: Yep.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Every time I see people like, oh, use this on your face. I’m like, oh my gosh, it’s petroleum. Do, would you take a barrel of oil and rub it on your face?

David Pasqualone: And yeah. And just for our listeners all around

Mary Lyn Hammer: the

David Pasqualone: world, this is again, all documented. Rockefellers had oil said, this isn’t enough for us. We have this waste. What can we do with it? Let’s put it in [00:36:00] vaccines. Let’s create vaccines. Let’s convince people they need them with no scientific evidence.

Let’s put it in their food supply. And we wonder why everybody’s having issues that can’t be explained today yet. It’s right in front of our faces.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah. And, and they call it something or market it, back then. There wasn’t the internet, there wasn’t an easy way for people to research things.

And so he just put a ton of money into all of these campaigns. And people believe, some people still say, oh, chiropractors are quacks. Our physical structure is, has to be in alignment to work properly. That’s not quackery. No. It’s reality.

David Pasqualone: And putting Mercury, injecting it into any human, let alone a baby.

Yeah. You don’t want to touch Mercury, let alone inject it in veins. Yeah. And they’re thinking we’re not going to have side effects. Yeah. So I’m tracking with you. So I want to talk to the recovery. There’s people listening [00:37:00] now who have had no hope. They’ve tried things, they’ve exhausted themselves physically, financially, their family’s writing ’em off.

’cause one of the main things that happens when you’re sick, you’ll even sometimes start thinking, I’m a hypochondriac. I’m making this up. This is psychosomatic. But your friends and family man, that happens a lot faster than you. And just because you can’t explain it, you start doubting yourself. It’s another lie, from safety. Oh, for

Mary Lyn Hammer: sure. Yeah, for sure. And so

David Pasqualone: where, oh, go ahead.

Mary Lyn Hammer: The, some of what happens with not having support from the family and it’s really about that, that people just don’t know any better. It’s not that they wanna be mean or anything. They just don’t understand it.

’cause it doesn’t make sense. So people oftentimes become very dependent on Lyme support groups. And, I’ve gone into these Lyme chat because I thought, oh, I have an answer. I’m just going to go in these support groups and tell ’em I have [00:38:00] an answer. I get attacked like brutally attacked sometimes.

You’re lying. Why would you say this? And it’s my daughter and I have been lying free since 2009. I think that should count for something.

David Pasqualone: This is, I can understand their philosophy because when people are desperate, you’d think the best in humans would come out to chip in and help them.

But you have this. Filthy scumbag population, like the Rockefellers and most of the politicians, they come in and exploit the people hurting.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah. ‘

David Pasqualone: cause they know that someone will do anything to try to stay alive. And I personally have met some fantastic medical doctors. I’ve met some fantastic holistic doctors and.

I’ve also met a bunch of scumbags just looking for money. you’re dying. I am going to suck every dime out of you. So you have nothing for inheritance. I’m taking that inheritance. [00:39:00] Those people need to be hung upside down and beat like pinatas. So I can see where if you go into Alys degree support group and these people are, sometimes suicidal ’cause they’re in so much pain that they’re thinking, oh, another false hope.

Oh, another false hope. So for you to come in right now on this show, how do you show them, Hey, this is real. I was really sick, I had documented Lyme’s disease and this is how I got better. Take us through that process.

Mary Lyn Hammer: I have I’ve written a book about it called Over My Dead Body. And then I, I’ve got clients who do testimonials for me too.

And on average, I have people up and running in four to six months. I don’t want forever patients. I want forever friends, I wanna see people out living their lives and enjoying life again. One of my clients had she had gotten bit by the tick when she was 12 years old, I believe, and she was in her forties when she came to me.

So over [00:40:00] 40 years, or over 30 years. And so the entire time she was married, she she had been sick and so her husband didn’t know her any other way. And he kept saying, I don’t really believe this. And, wasn’t very supportive. And they have four children. And so she’s trying to navigate through her job and raising four children when she felt like garbage.

And so I took her on and as she started getting better, he, he wa he, he was surprised that he was still going. Oh, I don’t know. I don’t know. And and then at a certain point, she turned the corner and she started texting me saying things like, I just had my first normal period in years.

‘Cause your blood becomes very viscose. Which is thick blood. [00:41:00] When you have Lyme disease. So she hadn’t had a normal period in years. She started having, more energy. Like at one point she, they, the family went to Zion Park for a family vacation and she was hiking. And now I see she we’re friends on Facebook and she’s got hiking pictures all the time and doing all this stuff with her kids.

She, she couldn’t do that until about a year and a half ago.

David Pasqualone: And how long did you work with her for? You said she started seeing results in four to six months.

How long would you say?

Mary Lyn Hammer: No, recall. They, through the process if people follow what I ask them to do, they’re through the process in four to six months.

David Pasqualone: Wow. Yeah. And does it matter if it’s recent illness or if they’ve had it? I’m guessing if they’ve had it for 30 years, there’s more mutations and damage. Is that a safe assumption or is that off?

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah, no, that, that’s safe to say. There’s certain, it depends on when you can contract it too. Like my daughter she has [00:42:00] some cognitive issues because she developed in it, her, I, I was, but the first month I was pregnant.

So she developed in it. However she’s overcome that and we had to go through three years of tutoring to get her caught back up. ’cause she had to relearn all of the, sight words and math, basic math and all of those things. She had to relearn it after she got rid of the disease. And but she’s 25 now and she graduated from Northern Arizona University with honors.

She had three promotions at her job last year. And she’s a fabulous person and the, but she still has to manage, she has to try harder than other people when she’s learning things because of the cognitive challenges. But she’s learned tools to overcome that.

But that’s damage from the disease. That doesn’t mean she still has the disease. That, what I have found is that where the [00:43:00] biofilm forms determines the symptoms, so the biofilm is a fibrin, fibrinogen material that the pathogen creates itself to hide in. And so when people say they’re in remission for, with Lyme disease, it’s not really remission.

It’s that the Lyme is hiding inside the biofilm. And then when all of the antibiotics leave and the environment becomes, weak enough, it comes back out and starts. Propagating again. So it’s not really remission, it’s that it’s inside of the biofilm and every chronic disease has a biofilm.

So it’s a fibrin and material. And where it grows is where your symptoms are. So when it grows around your nerves, you have nerve pain. When it grows in your brain, you have brain fog and headaches. When it grows in your ears, you have tinnitus. I had all of these things and it can be reversed.[00:44:00]

Yeah. And it was an interesting journey. So like I remember being in my office one day and I normally came in and shut all the shutters ’cause I couldn’t handle the light. And I was looking out the window and thinking about something one day. And I realized that I didn’t have the shades drawn, and I was like I don’t have the, I don’t have a headache.

And all of a sudden I didn’t have the headaches anymore. I spent a lot of time in Washington because of my student loan business. And so I I was up on Capitol Hill doing visits one day and I was with a bunch of friends and we were walking to a restaurant for dinner and I said, gosh, my feet hurt.

And I went, oh my God, my feet hurt. And I was jumping for joy. And everybody’s going, okay, what’s wrong with you? And I’m like, you don’t understand. I haven’t felt my feet in five years.

David Pasqualone: Yep.

Mary Lyn Hammer: And. So for me it was a [00:45:00] miracle. I had tinnitus. It was so loud I couldn’t hear, and especially in a room with a lot of people, I couldn’t filter out the background noise.

And, I have perfect hearing now and, it’s just so these symptoms just, they started going away and dissolving the biofilm was a major part of it. In fact, that, that part of the story and the reason for the name of the book over my dead body I contracted a blood infection through the IV port in 2008 and I nearly died.

And the infection that I had a 3% survival rate. So I’m very lucky to be here. But they, when I first got it, they were afraid to take me off the antibiotics because they thought I would die. And they were drawing my blood through the IV port right before they were doing emergency surgery and all this white stuff came into [00:46:00] the syringe and everybody’s looking at it looked like styrofoam.

It came in little white bits and then they all stuck together. It looked like styrofoam. And there was four doctors in the clinic that day and they’re like, what is this? Nobody had ever seen anything like it. And so they shipped the whole thing off to the lab and it came back, fibrin, fibrinogen it, and that biofilm was something new back then.

It was just starting to be studied. And so I did a ton of research on it. And actually, one of the first doctors was the same doctor that, that is known for Lyme disease and. So I knew that was key, but I didn’t really understand it because all the research was fairly new. So they they removed the IV port and I was going downhill very quickly and it was extremely painful.

There wasn’t an [00:47:00] infectious disease doctor in the state of Arizona who would see me. ’cause I would call up and start making the appointment and they’d say, you had an IV port for cancer? And I said, no, I had it for Lyme disease. And they’d go, we can’t see you. And I said, I’m not asking you to treat Lyme disease.

I’m asking you to treat my blood infection. They wouldn’t see me. And this is another one of the god moments. I was laying in bed and I turned gray. My hair had fallen out. I could barely make it to the bathroom, which was only about 12 feet away. And I was just praying that I wouldn’t die. My daughter was six years old and

there was one of my, one of my therapists said, you have the same pattern as this woman who died. And I’m still friends with her husband. She kept saying that to me, and it was a Tuesday after Labor Day, and I called her up and I said, would you [00:48:00] please reach out to this person and get the name of the infection?

And she did. And he said he was outta town till the end of the week. So this was a Tuesday. He said, I get back Friday and I’ll look it up. And she said, I don’t think she’ll live that long. And he called up his son and the son went over to their house and pulled their, his mom’s medical records and got us the name of the infection.

They put me on the right antibiotic for it, which was minocycline. It’s not a common antibiotic.

David Pasqualone: They use that for acne. They used to use it for acne and minocycline. That’s an old

Mary Lyn Hammer: drug. They don’t use it a lot because the patent was up on it decades ago. It’s the same thing with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

The patents were up years ago, so they don’t wanna push it ’cause they can’t make enough money on it. But that’s what turned me around, that saved my life. And it was two people who I’ve never met. And I wrote a thank you note to them[00:49:00]

and she gave it to them because I wouldn’t be here if they hadn’t given me the name of that infection. And from that point to the next time I went to the doctor was 10 weeks later, it took me that long to be able to walk across a room. When I went to the clinic the whole waiting room was full of people and the doctor was walking in between treatment rooms and he saw me and he came running into the waiting room and he’s you’re alive.

And we’re both jumping up and down. He’s you’re alive. You’re alive. And the rest of the room is looking at us like we were crazy.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. They didn’t know what was going on. And

Mary Lyn Hammer: yeah. But that, that, that saved my life. And then, so that was September, October, and then by December, I, with all the cleansing and everything, I was like, we have to do a cleanse and get all of this medication out of our bodies.

And so [00:50:00] Christmas, I put my daughter and I both on it’s called a Greens first cleanse. And we both got very sick and I went back to the doctor and he said, your blood infection is back and. I was terrified. And so I went to his office and I was sitting at his desk reading the research material about the blood infection, and he was on the phone with the pharmacist trying to figure out what to put me on.

And I got to the part where it said it had a vial thumb, and I was like, this has a biofilm. And I said this is the connection. This is the common link that we’ve been looking for. And so what we figured out was that the enzymes in the cleanse were dissolving the biofilm. And so we did a protocol of enzymes and we were rotating through the different enzymes.

At the same time I was on antibiotics and [00:51:00] Elizabeth, she didn’t have a blood infection, but we were doing the same thing with her for the Lyme and. About three weeks into it the school had recommended that she be put into a special class for her disability. And the teacher started calling me and saying, we don’t know what you’re doing, but whatever it is working because she’s now learning faster than the other kids.

And then about six months into it, and she was in the second grade and she came home, it was a Monday, and she said, mommy, today was the best Monday of my life. I said, why honey? And she said, because I’m not tired.

David Pasqualone: Oh man, that’s beautiful.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah, it was hard. And there is hope. And I don’t want people to be sick.

I [00:52:00] don’t want forever clients. Like I said I want people to get their lives back. Two and a half years ago, I took my daughter around the world. We went to seven different countries in Africa and some in the Middle East and in Australia. And, we’re living life as big as we possibly can.

And, and she’s in a happy relationship. I’m turning 65 this year and the only thing I’m on now is like vitamins and some thyroid hormones. My thyroid’s the only thing that didn’t fully heal,

David Pasqualone: not yet, but

Mary Lyn Hammer: they told me that my organs may never work right again. But that thyroid’s the only thing that, that’s it’s not horrible.

But I am on thyroid medicine.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. I personally believe God can heal everything. It’s will He. It’s, there’s a reason, like we discussed, but I believe everything, and even medical science for people who don’t believe in God. Yeah. It’s proven that medically every seven years, every cell in our [00:53:00] body’s completely regenerated.

So every seven years, like you hear allergies, people say, oh, I can gain or lose an allergy. That’s why. Yeah. Because your body is completely regenerated,

Mary Lyn Hammer: so let’s do this. Yeah. And that their immune system gets stronger. All of the allergies go away. The only allergies I have left anymore with foods is GMO foods.

Yeah. That’s not human. Were not, yeah. They’re not designed. And I’ve got an organic farm and orchard and everything now. So I, for the most part eat my own food. But there, there’s one other part of the story that I really like to share, and that was when I I crossed over several times.

When I was dying and when I was young, my brother in, in that abusive home, I had a brother named David who passed away two weeks before his fourth birthday. And my whole life, he was with me. I could feel him. He would talk to me when I was being abused and say, you’re strong. You can make it through this.

You can do [00:54:00] this. Like he, he was like my cheerleader to get me through those things. And when I crossed over, he was there at the beginning of the tunnel of light. And I said, oh, you’re here to take me into the light? And he said, no, I’m here to tell you it’s not your time yet. You’re going back. And we had a little argument.

And then he said, you can’t go yet. You have to go back to Elizabeth and you’re not done yet. And he sent me back. And for years I asked, why did you leave me? And I kept asking, and right before I wrote the book, he finally answered me and he said, because I could protect you more from heaven than I could on Earth.

And the minute he said it, I knew it was true because he got me through so many things.

I just [00:55:00] wanted to share that part. When we lose people, I lost a son five years ago and it about broke me. And faith is very powerful. Our spirits are very powerful, and the spirits of the people we love stay with us. And they’ve become part of our soul, family and our journey.

And so I just wanted to share that part.

David Pasqualone: Oh no. And thank you for doing that. Mary Lyn, there’s listeners who are ready. They want to get your information. Of course. We’re going to put in the show notes and we’re going to talk about where you are today and where you’re headed next. But from your birth to today, is there anything we missed that you want to discuss or any other thoughts that you wanna add like you just did?

Mary Lyn Hammer: I’ve done quite a bit in my lifetime. I have a business I’ve had for 38 years that is we do default prevention for student loans. And my schedule is [00:56:00] absolutely insane right now with all of the student loans. Challenges that we have going in after, five years of payment pause.

So I have that going on at the same time. So I have very limited time and so I only take on the amount of patients that I know that I can concentrate on. So it really, it’s a first come, first serve basis.

David Pasqualone: Do you have people who are reputable you can refer to?

Mary Lyn Hammer: I am in the process because you have to look for the patterns.

It’s really hard to train people how to read that. But it’s we reassess it every two weeks because it has to be customized, but there, I have it down to a fine art, so to speak. So I’ve got my website is champion for life.com. And there’s three phases of the healing journey that we do.

So the first phase is the cleansing journey. I just need people to [00:57:00] communicate with me because if a symptom pops up or something happens I wanna know about it right away. I do a lot of texting with my clients. I’m not one of those people that’s unreachable, which is part of why I do first come, first serve and limit my clients to the people that I know I can take care of.

And we communicate a lot. If symptoms pop up, I want to, we might have to increase like the carriers for the toxins. You always have to have a carrier to get it back out of the body as quickly as possible. So we start with the detox to build the body up and build the immune system up.

And we address like the viruses and anything that’s taking energy away from the body so that you can get it as strong as possible before you start treating the the pathogens. And then I work with the doctors in the phase where we’re actually killing the pathogens. So it’s a team [00:58:00] effort.

And then once we get through that phase, then we go back into a detox phase. Because you have to get all of the dead carcasses out and you have to get all of the toxins back out of the body and build the immune system back up. And depending on how long somebody has been sick like my daughter, I had to train her immune system how to work properly because she’d been sick her whole life.

And so for the first few months after we got rid of the Lyme disease and the co-infections, we had to it, if any little thing like a common cold came to her immune, she would have this huge fever and all, like her body would overreact because it was like, oh no, we’re sick again.

And so the immune system overreacts it doesn’t know how to react to a healthy body. So you have to retrain. The immune system. And that’s a lot of times when people will get their own energetic device and I teach them, you can put it on these [00:59:00] programs and run it because you can turn it on in the morning and run it on yourself while you’re at work or while you’re playing or on vacation or whatever.

It’ll automatically turn off if it, if your body, if it’s too much. So it’ll automatically turn off. But you can I can teach people how to do that maintenance part of it themselves, so they’re not dependent on me. But most people, we get through that process in four to six months. The BABE is the hardest thing to get rid of.

That’s a similar pathogen to malaria. So it’s harder to get rid of. And just, there’s a couple warnings that I’d just like to give people. S Lyme disease, ISPI, ket and it looks like a corkscrew so it can enter cells very easily ’cause it like punctures them and enters them. But Aspire KET is the same thing as syphilis and there is a huge misinformation about [01:00:00] information.

Lyme disease. It is sexually transmitted. And it is transmitted in utero. So when I’m treating people, I tell them, if you have a partner that you are having sex with, you both need to go through this. Otherwise you’re just giving it back and forth to each other.

David Pasqualone: I did not know that. I didn’t know it was sexually transmitted.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah. It’s transmitted through body fluids.

David Pasqualone: And again, I always go back to is there any test is it just the energetic device or is there any test you’d say, Hey, you can go down to this lab in your hometown, get this blood test, and it’ll tell you if you have Lyme disease or not.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Most of those tests are not accurate.

The hygienics test is accurate, and they also test for the co-infections. It is, it’s expensive, but [01:01:00] most of the tests are not accurate. And because of the mutations and because it hides in the biofilm, it may be active, it may not active. And so it, it’s harder to detect that the longer that somebody has it, the harder it is to get it tested.

It’s, if you compare it to like parasite cleanses. Or parasite infections where, if you don’t hit it just right, they won’t pick up on the parasites. It’s very similar. Got you. Some, sometimes they’re hiding. And parasites create biofilm too, by the way

David Pasqualone: yeah.

Mary Lyn Hammer: And there’s biofilm in cancer, there’s biofilm that, the white string stuff they’re pulling out of people that got vaccinated for COVID.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, I’ve seen those videos. Videos. That’s biofilm. Yep.

Mary Lyn Hammer: That’s biofilm,

David Pasqualone: man. All right, let’s do this. Is there, what’s the best way for people to learn more or reach out and connect with you?

Mary Lyn Hammer: We, I have a lot of information on my [01:02:00] website. We have a support group called the Lyme Crusher in Facebook. And there is somebody that used to use that name in Facebook, and we’ve been trying to get ahold of them because we have it trademarked, but nobody ever answers. So we don’t know how to get rid of that.

But our Lyme crusher has the Lyme Green that is associated with with Lyme disease in our logo. And then we have the Champion for Life that’s on both Instagram and Facebook. Or you can go to our website@championforlife.com and we have information there. I host Zoom calls to answer people’s questions and that, that’s based on my schedule right now.

But we do that where we can answer people’s questions and, I can’t answer a question like exactly what do I do because it, like I said, it mutates and I can’t tell you, there’s not a set protocol for it. It changes based on the mutation and the [01:03:00] co-infections and how your body’s reacting.

So Champion for Life is the best way to get ahold of me. And you can send a private message or you can leave a message through the website and then we schedule the session.

David Pasqualone: Excellent. Excellent. And again, is there anything between your birth and today where you’re heading next or any final thoughts you wanna share with our audience?

Mary Lyn Hammer: I am, I have sent information up to Robert Kennedy Jr. And his whole family has Lyme disease and one of his sons almost died from it. So that’s why you’re hearing more about Lyme right now. They are trying to introduce a vaccine for Lyme disease and based on my knowledge of it and the mutations, I would say stay away from it.

One of the reasons that they have not released it is because they have no studies that shows what it does to people who have [01:04:00] Lyme disease and don’t know it and take the vaccine, but you’re just introducing a, a. A pathogen that’s designed to take you out.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. You

Mary Lyn Hammer: know,

David Pasqualone: and he’s the last guy, I think when introduced another vaccine.

Mary Lyn Hammer: He’s, no, he was, this started under the prior administration.

David Pasqualone: Oh, gotcha,

Mary Lyn Hammer: Gotcha. And it came up about two years ago because I thought, why they’ve been hiding this for 30 years. Why are all of a sudden is everything about Lyme disease? And I started digging, and that’s what I found is, oh, they’re getting ready to release a vaccine.

That’s why all of a sudden Lyme disease actually exists. It’s a bunch of bologna is what it is. But that’s why they started talking about it and saying it was real, is because they wanted to, get profit involved. They want

David Pasqualone: a profit.

Mary Lyn Hammer: Yeah. And it has not been approved yet. I’m just saying there, there’s a better way.

And, eradicating it from your body is the best way to get rid of it.

David Pasqualone: I agree a hundred percent, and it [01:05:00] takes time, it takes effort. It realistically, it takes money. But don’t quit fighting, ladies and gentlemen. Today we are here with Mary Lyn Hammer, and she talked about, as you heard, her journey and her daughter’s journey with Lyme’s disease and all the things that sadly went along with it, but she’s able to recover from.

And like our slogan says, Listen. Do. Repeat. For Life!. Listen to the information that Mary Lyn gave you. Research it, pray about it. Do what you know you need to do in conjunction with your physicians and your other medical team. Repeat the good healthy habits each day. Stay away from those Twinkies and the Snickers bars.

They’re not helping you. They’re killing you. And despite what the FDA under Biden said, lucky charms was healthy, it’s poison. Eat the steak. And then repeat for life. You can have a great life and more than anything for eternity. And if you [01:06:00] are sick right now, I know Mary Lyn has a heart for you.

I have a heart for you. But more than anything, God has a heart for you. He didn’t cause this. He doesn’t want you to have it, but he has allowed it. I got critically ill for years. Mary Lyn was critically ill for years. Different things, but looking back, do I ever wanna be sick again? No. And you might be sick now, but when we are done and when you’re through to the other side, you’ll see like Mary Lyn, like myself.

There’s reasons for it and we don’t fully understand. We won’t fully understand it until we’re an attorney with God, but I already see enough that I’m thankful for what’s happened, but be honest, I don’t ever wanna go through it again. So reach out to Mary Lyn if you have any questions through her website.

And Mary Lyn, give that website one more time.

Mary Lyn Hammer: It is Champion for life.com.

David Pasqualone: All right.

Mary Lyn Hammer: So good. And the book’s available there. It’s also available on Amazon. You have to put my name in with the title because there’s a few [01:07:00] over My Dead Bodies. But yeah, so I put in both, and it’s on Amazon and Amazon has an electronic version of it as well.

And it, I’ve learned a lot since I released that book. And that was five years ago that I released the book. So I have, I know more now than I knew then. And that’s the wonderful part about science is that I have this down to four to six months now, instead of years and years. And we have packages for people to sign up where it includes all of the testing and the supplements.

It’s a three month protocol. It’s all included. And we have payment plans for that. And it’s eight to $10,000. And I can tell you that I had over a half a million dollars in debt when I was cured. And $10,000 a drop in the bucket. And like I said, that includes the supplements and the testing and everything.

So it’s a really good deal. I’m not in this for the money.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, no. And I, again, myself. [01:08:00] Not even when I was 18, not even when I was in my teens, but when I was in my thirties and I got sick and doctors couldn’t figure out why I suffered for years. And when I got critically ill, I spent over a hundred thousand dollars in just copays and deductibles.

So to say $10,000, four to six months, you come on the other side healed. That is fantastic. So thank you again Mary Lyn for being here today.

Mary Lyn Hammer: You bet. Thank you.

David Pasqualone: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we hope you enjoyed this episode. We hope it inspired you. Pray about it, share it with your family and friends. Take the next step you need to take and never quit.

I’m David Pasqualone. This is our Remarkable friend, Mary Lyn Hammer, and we’ll see you in the next episode. Ciao ​

Ladies and gentlemen, I sincerely hope this show has inspired you. The whole purpose of The Remarkable People Podcast is to inspire you, [01:09:00] to motivate you into action, to help you have an even better life, to overcome things you’ve not yet been able to overcome or to grow to the next level that you never thought possible.

And all of this, not just to benefit you in this world, but to have you come to a relationship with God where it grows every day stronger. And not just this world is blessed, but your eternity is blessed. And we sincerely want to do just that, and to glorify God. And we hope with this episode we accomplish that.

If we did. Please let me know. It’s great to be encouraged and to spread the word to our Remarkable guests that it helped in your life. If we didn’t, let me know. Write me an email. You can go to DavidPasqualone.com . Go to our contact us page and let me know what you think. I got tough skin. Let it rip.

Anything you can think of to make [01:10:00] this a better podcast to help you grow and to glorify, God, I’m in. So that’s it. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Thank you for sending us feedback. If we can help you in any way, let us know. And if you can spread the word about the Remarkable People Podcast, share the episode to your friends, your family on social media.

It would be a huge honor and blessing. Again, I’m not trying to be the most famous podcast in the world for my benefit, I truly want a podcast that’s the best podcast in the world to help as many people as we can to have a better life, come to know Christ, to grow in the Lord, and to have that salvation so they can be with God and peace and joy in eternity.

And right now we’re together on this earth, so let’s do everything we can to work together and help each other grow. Like the Bible says, love the Lord thy God as a first commandment. And the next command is to love thy neighbor as [01:11:00] thyself. So let’s do it together. I’m David Pasqualone. I love you. Not as much as God loves you, but if I can help you in any way, just ask.

And again, please share this with your friends and family so we can help them too. Ciao and see you in the next episode.

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