Dr. Greg Eckel Explains How to Stop Dementia and Rebuild Brain Cells

Dr. Greg Eckel Explains How to Stop Dementia and Rebuild Brain Cells

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David Pasqualone: Hello, friend! Welcome to this week's episode of the Remarkable People Podcast. Today, we have with us Dr. Greg Eckel, and he is going to talk to us about the brain, common misconceptions, and not only misconceptions, but lies about what we know about the brain that removes hope from us and makes us dependent on things that actually don't work and may in fact make things worse.

So doctor, how are you today?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Hey, I am doing really well.

David Pasqualone: Good. It's great having you here. The brain is probably the least understood part of the human anatomy, and we know so little [00:01:00] about the human anatomy as a whole in reality, right?

Dr. Greg Eckel: That is so true. We know a lot, but so much so that we can't explain it all.

David Pasqualone: Exactly. I always look at it like we know information we could write on the head of a pin, and the rest of what we know- ... for our universe is what God knows. So we're way behind. But let's do this. Listeners all around the world, whether they're having memory issues, they're afraid of dementia, they're- they know someone they love that have some kind of told deterioration of the mind, Alzheimer's disease, it can't be reversed.

If someone commits to listening to this episode or sharing it with their family and friends and loved ones, what do you guarantee is at least one thing? They'll probably get many, but

Dr. Greg Eckel: what's one thing- I have a few. So number one a lot more hope because there are things that we can do today, lots of research, and we are showing clinically changes of people's brains where they get their lives back, and two, I [00:02:00] want to provide a ton of options that they did not have before listening to your show.

David Pasqualone: Awesome. And then specifically, two or three. What are two or three areas of your life and practice today that you're seeing true growth in, so when people listen, they know this is going to apply to me?

Dr. Greg Eckel: One of the, the components, I specialize in helping people with Parkinson's disease Alzheimer's, and dementia.

So we have the Eckel protocol for brain regeneration. So we are a frequency-forward center. We're using sound and light and regenerative stem cell therapeutics. So if any of those topics are of interest this is the cutting edge of medicine happening today.

David Pasqualone: Awesome. I am personally pumped because I think this is one of the most, we've ate so many chemicals and toxins and had injections, and our brains are literally being blocked and deteriorated, right? But yet the pharmaceutical industry is [00:03:00] like, "There's no hope. Just take more drugs to slow it down." And I don't believe that, and I don't think you do either. So ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take a short affiliate break, and we will be right back with Dr. Greg.

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David Pasqualone: All right, Greg. Okay. I am pumped. Our listeners are pumped. Let's

Dr. Greg Eckel: do it.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, man. So number one, how did this become so passionate to you? What made you shift gears and put your whole career in this area?

Dr. Greg Eckel: So I've been in practice for 25 years as a naturopathic physician and Chinese medicine practitioner.

Eight years ago my wife Soraya passed of a rare neurodegenerative condition called Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. And this I had a very large clinic in Portland, Oregon. I'd been in practice 17 years. Soraya and I had a practice together for about four of tho- four years prior.

She was a certified nurse [00:05:00] midwife, nurse practitioner. Any women listening to your show know it's never fun going to get your annual exam. But Soraya was this really special being that, had women coming out of the exam room dancing a little jig and singing a little song. It was like, "What what is going on in there?"

We had blended our families. We blended our medical practices. She had three kids. I had two. We even had a maid named Alice like the Brady Bunch. We had bought our first home together, and, when you move you lose things. But we lost this one orange Fiestaware plate that became the harbinger of a, a really bad Groundhog Day to come.

She was young 40s started to ha- experiencing some memory loss. And I, I thought, "Okay, this is stressful. Top five stress. Moving." Wasn't that. It [00:06:00] wasn't perimenopause hormonal change. It wasn't because of mold. These are, like, the top causes for memory loss in someone young.

We ruled all of those things out, and I was basically forced to get back into our fractured medical system. And e- even as a provider, it is very hard to navigate the system that we live in. And this is, nine years ago, so it's even more fractured now. We went to Kaiser. They said, "Oh, this is a psychotic break."

I'm like, "Th- I've been in practice 17 years. There's no way. This is not a psychotic break. This is something different, something I'd never seen before."

David Pasqualone: And can I actually add something?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Medical science for years has done this. They don't know what it is. They don't put the effort into d- diagnosing it, so they label people as mental and write a prescription.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: If you're listening to this, ladies and gentlemen- Yeah ... you [00:07:00] need to be your own advocate And fight. And there are times where they, the m- medical industry and people who even care about you, they have... it's like Job's friends. They might've had good intentions, but they were totally wrong.

You'll get to the point where you may be questioning yourself. That's why you always have to anchor it on God and facts. So if you know there's something wrong, keep pursuing it. Nobody has a PhD more than what God put in you of yourself. That's my opinion, Dr. Greg. You may-

Dr. Greg Eckel: That is that component and really where it's brought me in my practice of kind of this tragic loss is I thought clearly we wrote this before we got here.

And my goal, I say I do a lot of nothing all day as a provider, a practitioner, really is the innate intelligence God, and the person with... We've got to percolate it through the being-ness. So having that, we're treating souls having a human experience, and [00:08:00] having that understanding, I train my providers here on deep presence and listening in that the individual in front of us will tell us the exact path back to wellville, or connection with source, or connection with God.

Disease is separation from source. So that's what it is. It's the further that you've drifted. And so there's a y- I- I always take it how is this happening for me, not to me? So if you just start asking, now maybe some of your listeners will want to punch me in the face with that. Perhaps they're going through cancer or some autoimmune condition, or they're suffering.

But you have to ask the question, why is this happening for me? Because there have been clues that haven't been listened to the point where the intelligence just keeps turning up the volume to say, "Pay attention to me. Pay attention to me. We're out of balance." So In my own case, and with this journey with [00:09:00] Soraya, one day my office manager Chelsea came up to me and said, "Hey Doc, Soraya just left the building."

I'm like, "What are you talking about?" "Yeah, with her white lab jacket and stethoscope. She just strolled through the lobby, said goodbye to the patients." This is like 2:00 in the afternoon. Went wandering the streets of Portland. And I, at that point, I knew I had to grow up. We closed the practice. We pushed everybody back about three months, and we went really looking for solutions, and I quickly became a brain expert.

Unfortunately, what was on the differential diagnosis were uncurable conditions as of yet. Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, autoimmune encephalitis. So I'm talking to researchers and the experts around the globe on... The question became, how do we regenerate the brain? Unfortunately, what I found didn't help Soraya one iota.

She, within two months, she lost the ability to speak, [00:10:00] to feed herself and I, the kids and I just watched her wither over the next 16 months. So it was an 18-month ride. At the end of that ride, they give you a free brain biopsy to prove that it was Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. This is mad cow syndrome in people.

While I knew, I could have just thrown in the towel. It's pretty tragic being in medicine, you can't save your wife's own life. Pretty pretty pathetic on one level, but on another level-

David Pasqualone: No ...

Dr. Greg Eckel: I u- I took it as a, an awakening and a call. It reinstated my faith in such a beautiful way.

I knew, at, up to that point in my life I had never experienced love like that with another human with my wife. And j- Soraya showed me a region of my heart that I did not know existed. And so instead of saying, "Boy," it is a tragic component, but what came out of that is this massive mission to [00:11:00] help millions reclaim their agency and their birthright of good health developing a plan, programs to help.

In particular, we focused in on Parkinson's first, and why Parkinson's? These are misfolded protein disorders. So in the first textbook of prionic conditions which are misfolded proteins, you've got alpha-synuclein, which is Parkinson's, beta amyloid plaque, which is Alzheimer's. You got Lewy bodies for dementia tau proteins.

These are all misfolded protein disorders. My question over the last nine years is how do you regenerate the brain? How do you get proteins to stop misfolding? And that has I'm, it's just, the, with the magic... I'm in awe of life, the preciousness of our bodies. The, the mystery is truly alive when you tune into it.

And so on all of those levels, my [00:12:00] goal is to help people reclaim their agency, their minds, and create from their hearts, bringing more love into this environment. And, from kind of that phoenix rising scenario, so many gifts. I call them Soraya's gifts. Sure, did, I navigated sadness and grief, and I don't wish that journey on anyone.

There were definitely dark nights of the soul. But really bringing me back to God to my heart, to creation to gratitude and beauty and awe. All of these things are just such gifts. And to be able to share that and to speak to the heart of the matter after profound loss and having that relational understanding this is a, a tough learning curriculum here on Earth and but we all are here for it.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, absolutely. And going back to before we start moving forward [00:13:00] If I heard you correctly, it's what publicly was referred to as mad cow disease. Is

Dr. Greg Eckel: that- Yeah, it's mad cow syndrome in people. So a lot of people have heard of mad cow syndrome. That's the condition. It's spongiform encephalitis in cattle, so it's called Creutzfeldt-Jakob or Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease in people, CJD.

And- So it's ho- holey brain, spongiform s- there's holes like a sponge in encephalitis in the brain.

David Pasqualone: And I don't want to be ignorant, but I'm being honest. I don't know. Yeah. It... Was that something that she just had a time bomb and it went off, or did she eat a bad hamburger at some point in her life? Like-

Dr. Greg Eckel: No, so that's the- Where does

David Pasqualone: that come from?

Dr. Greg Eckel: That is a great question. So she had the variant form. Now, there is there's some that is genetic, and then there's some acquired, and then there's variant form. So some of it could... Now, there were, in the '80s, if you remember, [00:14:00] maybe you're too young for that, but there were-

David Pasqualone: No, I'm 49. I remember mad cow

Dr. Greg Eckel: disease- Okay.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah ... and various other people that showed up positive. So they released a lot of tainted beef in in Europe, right? There were cows with mad cow syndrome, and that product got put on the market, tons of beef. There was not an uptick of Cre- of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in people.

So the, the thought was that if you're eating tainted beef, that you're going to get it. When you read about prions, they're always called infectious prions in that that there's this boogeyman that we're going to catch them. I don't think that is the case. M- myself, my children, we all lived in close proximity.

We were getting into hyperbarics bedrooms, sharing meals with Soraya with active disease process, and all of us are fine. So it is not an infectious agent. It's really led to my hypothesis, and [00:15:00] really what we're working out with the Echo Protocol for brain regeneration is, what causes proteins to misfold?

And there are three bu- big buckets, environmental toxicity, trauma, physical, mental, emotional, and ancestral, and infections. Those are the three big buckets that create insult to proteins for them to misfold. And so then they start to signal senescent cells or cancer cells start to signal other cells to not play by the rules.

That's what these proteins or prions do. They misfold, and they start sending a signal for other proteins to misfold, and that's where the holes in the brain come from. So it's it's unknown. I think I've had to go down each one of those paths, and in particular, as I look back on Soraya's life and her ancestry, all three of them play out as possible causes, and it was [00:16:00] probably some combination of all three.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, and sometimes that's the most frustrating part, the not knowing. You know- Yeah ... you got sick. Even if you recover, it's like what caused it so it doesn't happen again? And sometimes there just aren't answers on this side of heaven,

Dr. Greg Eckel: but those we have to ask the question why, especially clinically and in medicine, and that's where I feel Western approach, the reductionist model of care, they're not really asking the question why.

They're saying, "What can we do? What can we give you?" Bent by either a pharmaceutical approach or surgical approach, but there's no correction or under- can we address underlying root cause to actually have the entity correct itself? So- ... the, the approach is way different, and I think it's a really...

We may, you're right, we may never get the que- we may never have that answered, but it has put- Me, with what our focus has been over the last eight years, we have one of the largest [00:17:00] databases for people with Parkinson's in an integrative and functional medicine approach. And with that database, we're able to see trends, and we've discovered five types of Parkinson's.

We came up with tho- the three bucket theory of, look, these are actually consistent in two, over 2,000 patients and what they're experiencing is environmental toxicity, trauma, and infections. And those for all of our listeners out here today, there are... Those are the low-hanging fruit.

Those are the levers everyone can push on and pull on to create change back to Wellville to prevent these things from happening in the future too.

David Pasqualone: Absolutely. And yeah, and I didn't want to make it sound like I believe you dig for the root, and you go, and you either succeed or you die trying.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: But what I was saying is there are some, like in my own personal [00:18:00] life- Yeah ... I've had a tumor in my head. Never, no explanation why. Yeah. I've had illness. And how many people do we all know? If you ladies and gentlemen don't know someone with Alzheimer's or Parkinson's or, That's horrible.

I'm forgetting the name. Dementia. Yes. That's terrible.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Apropos.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. So anyways, but if you haven't actually seen this firsthand it's horrible to watch, especially when- Yeah ... it comes to stuff like dementia and Alzheimer's because- Parkinson's. They're all bad. But what I'm saying is some of these people are physically healthy, and they live 20 years completely not there.

Yeah. So it's super hard on the family. Dr. Eckel, what- start us where you think, first off, what are some warning signs that maybe you missed with your wife but now you can pick up and help people with? What are some things you can do proactively in your diet? Like w- bring us through the process that you think is important to help our listeners.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Sure. So w- n- number one, w- there is a silver tsunami coming [00:19:00] for cognitive impairment, mild cognitive impairment, dementia, Alzheimer's. By 2030, it's predicted in the United States over f- half of 65 years old or older will have some cognitive decline. This is not normal. If you're going to a provider and they're saying, "Get used to it, it- you're just getting old," you need a new provider because there's n- that is not true.

So cognitive decline, memory word recall, brain fog less sharp thinking, those are not- they're common. These are very common symptoms, and they're so common that they ca- they get called normal. But we are in a culture of dis-ease right now. And so when you realize that and again, I've been in practice a quarter of a century, which is really wild to say, 25 years of my life I've been practicing medicine, and I've seen [00:20:00] laboratory changes where the reference range changes.

The reference range is not a normal range. The ref- it's a reference range, and it's two standard deviations around an average. Notice I said nothing about optimum health in that sentence. It's two standard deviations around an average. And who's sending their blood work into the labs? It's a bunch of drug-sick Americans.

So we need to understand the framework of this discussion is this is not normal what we are seeing. There's not a healthy aging. And I can say that really authoritatively because I have 91-year-olds who are healthier at 91 than they were at 81. Oftentimes people say, "Oh, that works for the youngsters, but I'm too old for this to work."

So I want to just set the stage with some excitement, and this is that component of hope. We are seeing massively disabled [00:21:00] people get their lives back with a simple process. So we start in, you asked for simple, the beginning signs and symptoms. So I'll speak in, about Parkinson's, but some of these also go for dementia, Alzheimer's, m- mild cognitive impairment, dementia, Alzheimer's.

There's kind of a continuum there of worsening of symptoms. Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Is MS in this category, too?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Multiple sclerosis is brain degeneration, but it's a little bit different on a... We can definitely put that together because I treat people, not conditions or diagnosises. But MS is more of an autoimmune condition where the wiring, the myelination which surrounds the nerve, like basically if you imagine the telephone pole with electricity going, that has to have insulation to keep the electricity in there.

What happens in MS is the insulation comes off of the nerve, so the nerves stop [00:22:00] delivering the signal.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. That- I had a friend growing up, she had that. It was just brutal to watch. She was such-

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah ...

David Pasqualone: a sweet woman.

Dr. Greg Eckel: So that is similar, maybe we'll say adjacent, in brain regeneration. Loss of sense of smell, one of the earliest signs.

Now, this is big, especially post-COVID because that was a main symptom of getting that virus. What is that? That is neuroinflammation. That is a signal that you have some fire on your brain. Now, people will just have it for 10 to 15 years. "Oh, I lost my sense of smell 15 years ago." That means you've had neuroinflammation for 15 years.

Now, it could be nothing. It could be maybe you have a, a sinus infection that you've lost the ability to smell, but that really is a first telltale sign. Constipation, very very common symptom in the United States. Not enough fiber or vegetables in the [00:23:00] diet, but constipation could be a harbinger of neurodegeneration, and there is a theory that some of these conditions like Parkinson's, like Alzheimer's, dementias, actually starts in the gut.

90% of cranial nerve 10, or your vagus nerve, which is how the body gets into a parasympathetic or rest and regenerative state, 90% of that signal is from the body to the brain. So there could be some bowel disturbances that are the smoking gun 10, 20, 30 years before you develop any outward telltale signs.

So this is really for all listeners in from the tw- 30s on, really we need to be aware of our brain health. R- restless leg syndrome. There is a REM sleep disorder, so acting [00:24:00] out of your dreams at nighttime can be an early sign of neurodegeneration. And then, as it advances, it's word recall, it could be social anxiety.

These are not common. The word recall, I think everybody gets of "Oh, I, I walk into the room, I can't remember why I'm there." A little bit, those are stress effects on the system. You only have nine attentional units that you can juggle at a time. Then we throw you a 10th ball, and you drop them all.

So there's a piece as we age, we have more responsibility, more stress, so it could be just stress. But that stress left unchecked over time creates neuroinflammation and degradation. Again, I'm, I want to get the word out, and thank you for that question, is how do we prevent this from happening? Rather than push through, put the blinders on, take your ibuprofen, get rid of your symptom, it's no, listen to your body.

It's sending you [00:25:00] signals today that needs to be addressed. You have to ask the question, why is this happening? And no, we haven't been taught to think like that. And in fact, I have a book coming out next year, and it's really on the majesty of this operating system. This is a million times more brilliant than any AI program can be, and we're n- we don't even know how to operate the thing.

We don't know how to clear out the body to receive the signals and information. And one simple question is to start asking you with a symptom, just ask your heart, your emperor or empress, "Why is this happening?" And then be quiet and listen. And you might not get a direct answer, like, immediately, but you have to keep asking the question why.

Why is, what is this symptom here to tell me? And you be the judge of it because it's your connection to God that is talking. And we haven't been taught to [00:26:00] listen or even ask that direct question. I don't want any surrogate between me and spirit. And because that, we're, it's our birthright to have, we are it.

We're pretending to be separate in this reality, right? There's the entity of David over there and Dr. Eckel over here and the listeners. It, we're all source. We started source, then we're born, and then we return to source. That component, if you have that bigger lens and understanding, then you get way better answers when you ask the right question.

And then maybe seeing a provider who understands what that means, v- versus divorcing any spirit or soul from the meat suit where there's n- it's not even addressed. Faith isn't even welcome into the room. It's like, no, we welcome your faith because that's, that's the sovereignty that we're born into.

But it's the remembering and connection that we foster. Maybe we [00:27:00] don't find a cure, but we definitely foster and reunite the individual soul with heart and more love and the learning that comes out of that. So again, I ramble on from the early signs and symptoms, but then, we've seen, and as you mentioned, like grandparents, parents going through memory loss decline.

Parkinson's a little bit easier to see because it's the kind of the pill rolling, stutter step tremor, stiffness the stooping. It encloses the person there. Yeah, I'll pause.

David Pasqualone: Yeah no. So definitely there's so much going on. I guess people listening, they either are like, "I don't want that to happen to me.

What can I do to prevent it?" Or two, "Man, I know somebody I love and this is going on. How do we fix them?" Yeah. So pick let's start with-

Dr. Greg Eckel: Let's go on the prevention

David Pasqualone: front first ... prevention.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Everybody wants-

David Pasqualone: And hey, I know, this, this- Yeah ... disclaimer. You say what you think and people take it in context, ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah. [00:28:00] Obviously, this isn't every situation. This is good, fundamental, you eat right, you exercise, you sleep well, you're going to typically be healthier, right? There's always the exception. Dr. Eckel's telling us these are good foundational steps to keep us healthy and to get actually even healthier as we age instead of the opposite.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah. So one of the first ones, everybody wants to know, what can I take, doctor? What, is there a supplement or something? And, the first response is- Or what not

David Pasqualone: to take. I thi- I think- Yeah ... a lot of what not to take. There's so much crap in our diet.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Oh, whoa, there is, and so we're going to get there, right?

So the first premise is you're not going to be able to supplement your way out of a bag of potato chips. It is the non-sexy stuff on diet. If you can't pronounce the ingredients on the label, you should not be eating it. You should never put high-fructose corn syrup into your body.

That is an industrial waste product. That is in Coca-Cola. That is in a lot of sodas. If [00:29:00] you are drinking sodas look at the can. Those are corrosives. You could clean your toilet with those things. So you do not want to be putting it into this body because it just, it does you no good. They're highly addictive because of the, the fructose the high-fructose corn syrup in there.

Even the diet sodas, because of the diet, the alternative sugars, are neurotoxins. So number one look at the labels. Eat whole foods. Stay to the outside of the grocery store because everything on the inside the aisles are packaged foods which are no, that is not actual food. So it does, eat vegetables.

You want four to six cups of vegetables a day. Organic is best. If you can't, if you feel like you can't afford organic you're paying later with your health, which [00:30:00] becomes very expensive. It's one of the top causes of bankruptcy in the United States are health issues. You're either paying now or paying later, but there is a dirty dozen that you can tune into Environmental Working Group, it's ewg.org.

They usually publish the 12 most toxic fruits and vegetables, so definitely don't eat those. Get the organic varietals. Looking at your water. Here in Park City, Utah, where I am now at my clinic Be Vital th- it was a mining town. There is a ton of arsenic in the water. If we don't filter our water here, we're getting high levels of arsenic, which is toxic to the nervous system and other systems of the body.

It's clean food, clean air, clean water. Getting an air filter for your bedroom. If you live within a mile of a golf course, there's a higher [00:31:00] incidence of Parkinson's disease. Why? Causative, correlative. It's correlative, but because of the pesticides used on the golf course that gets into the water table, that gets into the water that then people start drinking.

So a lot of the water plants around the United States are not able to clear all of that all of the pesticides out. Pesticides in our food. We've got glyphosate. People are spraying their yards to get rid of dandelions with known cancer-causing agents. They are also neurotoxins. So there's a lot of we're swimming in this soup of toxic chemicals.

Now, thankfully, our bodies are much more powerful than those toxins, but we need to have the awareness of, the, the big hole in the bottom of the bucket. If you have a big hole, getting a lot of exposures, like you should not be using plastics anymore, especially [00:32:00] plastics in the microwave. Do not ever put any plastic container in a microwave because what happens is that plastics leach into the food, and then you eat the food.

And we're seeing more and more we're having plastics in our brains, plastics in our reproductive organs plastics in our body. Our bodies weren't meant to filter plastics out of them.

David Pasqualone: Yeah,

Dr. Greg Eckel: no- So that's the environmental.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. Dave- No, I agree completely, ladies and gentlemen. We, if I turn the camera around into our kitchen, there's no microwave.

Yeah. Yeah. And we got rid of all the plastic, glass. And we're not, I'm not doing this because- what's there? Some people live in fear. I'm just being wise. Just- Yeah ... trying to we filter our air with a Jaspr air scrubber. Nice. We filter our water through the Berkey air filter. Y- you can only do so much.

Chem trails, it's real. It's not conspiracy theory, right? Our governor, thank God, DeSantis said, "Cut it out." It's still not being stopped because it's [00:33:00] oh, a $5 fine and they're making 5 million a day, right? But anyways, you shouldn't be screwing with the people's air. But that- ... I can't control, aside from the Jaspr air scrubber.

The water, I can't control what goes through the pipes 'cause the, the people are corrupt. If you've ever looked at how they distribute water and how they clean the water, they pour mass amounts of chemicals into the factory so the people at the end of the line get the right amount.

That means everybody between the beginning and that end get overdosed. So you can go on, and I don't want to distract with these things, but what Dr. Greg's saying, ladies and gentlemen, is totally true. He's just cutting to the chase, which we need to do- Yeah ... for an hour episode. But yeah. So watching what you eat, doing, cutting back in the areas you don't need to do, don't use plastic and heat it up in a microwave.

And then what are the other things you're seeing that people just do every day and take for granted that melt their brain?

Dr. Greg Eckel: I, not moving their body. So again I said I'd start with the non-sexy stuff [00:34:00] first, which we know these things but we don't know these things. So by high intensity interval training, it's called HIIT.

There was a great book by an exercise physiologist out of Toronto, Canadian. He was studying exercise physiology. New parent, no time. He's like I have these grad students, let me check it out." I think he called it The One Minute Workout. I have no affiliation with it. Catchy title. It's actually you're doing four minutes of high intensity interval training, but there's a four-minute warmup, one minute of, like, all you can go, and then four-minute cool down, and you do that three to four times.

That is really, we're talking about 16 to 20 minutes of a workout. But people just don't... There's so much misinformation of what's the best, and we get stuck in this eddy of o- information overload. It just, go for a [00:35:00] walk after you eat would be one simple thing. But you've gotta move your body. So if you're in pain, you gotta handle the pain, get out of pain, and get your body moving.

Because what the high intensity interval training does is it increases a chemical called BDNF, brain-derived neurotropic factor. That is how new neurons are created. Now, one word on that. In the Western mindset, once you damage your brain, once the brain cells are gone, they're supposedly not able to come back.

Now, we are showing with imaging and functionality that is not true. So that

David Pasqualone: way- And I'm glad- Yeah ... you brought that up. Yeah. Because ladies and gentlemen, I'm a Christian. I believe the Bible. I believe in God. And in your body, everything not only regenerates, but it's scientifically proven that within seven years, every cell in your body regenerates.

Yet we've always been told the brain doesn't. And I'm like, how is it? [00:36:00] I h- I find that hard to believe. It's... Yeah. Just because we don't understand it. But go, talk about that, please.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah, so I published in 2025, we had a case series of two patients that came through our program with Parkinson's that they no longer have Parkinson's disease.

There's a there's an imaging that I don't recommend, but they had it done at Mayo and Cleveland Clinic, where you ingest a radioactive dye. It go- it's called a DaT scan. It goes to your substantia nigra, which is where dopamine and dopaminergic receptors are, which is what gets damaged at, for the outward telltale signs of Parkinson's.

They were consistent with Parkinson's, diagnosed for a decade. The medications of Parkinson's were helpful, starting to wear off. They engaged with our program where it was detect, correct, and thrive, which I can talk about in a minute. One year after, off of medications, no symptoms, redid the [00:37:00] DaT scan, which showed consistent with age.

Now, the journal editors would not allow me to put the imaging in the journal article. That was the whole point of wanting to publish it. But because their blinders, they cannot see a world where a person with Parkinson's could ever improve. So we had to go just symptom picture-wise, where the imaging would have been worth a thousand words, but the imaging didn't lie.

It wasn't my imaging. It was Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic that showed the substantia nigra healed. And better yet, they have no symptoms and off of the drugs. So we are showing that this is actually possible today. We are living at an amazing time with amazing technologies, but you've got to do them in the right order to get the best outcome.

So that piece of... we have actually Christopher Reeve, Superman, to thank for proving that statement, the brain doesn't regenerate, proving that wrong because he [00:38:00] threw hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, at rehabbing from a spinal cord injury where he was never supposed to walk again.

He was able to walk again. So that piece really gave the aha moment of, "No, the brain actually can regenerate given the right information." You first remove the obstacles to cure, that's detect or testing, and then you layer in the correct, the sound, light, regenerative stem cell therapeutics, oxygen and then you prevent any slide back, and then you get into how good can it get.

So that piece is really crucial to understand is yes, the body actually truly can heal itself

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And then to take it a step further, if anybody's had surgeries, surgeons will just cut stuff out of your body. Huge chunks. And you talk to the doctors, they're like, "Oh, your body will reroute it.

It'll just reroute it." And the thing is, with the brain, again, we know so little about [00:39:00] it, all those synapses and all the energy. Even if you had an injury, who says God can't reroute it? Who says it can't re- restore it? What do you guys think about that? I've had a

Dr. Greg Eckel: patient, I've had a patient that had half their lobe, their right right lobe of their brain removed from cancer, totally functioning with left hemisphere, everything relocalized.

You could not tell- Yeah ... that they had only half of their brain. It all just really relocated. So the, the majesty of the body of life you cannot put limits as to what we're fully capable of. Yeah.

David Pasqualone: All right. So we got listeners in the UK right now. We got listeners in America. We got listeners in Latin America.

All over the world, and they're listening okay. I, my father's dying. My father- Yeah ... my mother's sick. What do I do?" Yeah. Start taking us through those processes of where- Sure ... do they get started, or what should they be looking for, or who should they contact- Yeah ... people in their area?

Dr. Greg Eckel: So the, we see people from around the globe because [00:40:00] unfortunately, neurology, it, that, that system is really fractured.

So I'm here to say I, I think a lot of these brain the degeneration or neurologic or neurodegeneration isn't actually a neurological issue. That is the end stage of a disease process. So what we've been doing, and we take this approach, is more holistically treating heart-centered human beings moving through time and space.

We look at environmental toxicity. We have to rule out the pesticides, herbicides, heavy metals. We see mercury, cadmium, arsenic, and lead. We store these toxins in our fat. Where do we have a lot of fat? Our brains are 60% fat. So we need to rule that out because that can really get in the way of any progress, of any good things that you layer in on top of that.

So one, detection. We look at the microbiome. So I said, 90% of the vagus nerve is afferent, meaning it's [00:41:00] taking information from the body up to the brain. That innervates the gut, so that's the gut-brain axis that maybe you've heard of. So we look

David Pasqualone: at- A- actually, can I bring some... I have a question for you.

Yeah. I heard this.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: I think it's true When we grew up, constipation was you couldn't go poop.

So you take, they tell you to take- Laxatives ... so and yeah. Yeah. And then you go. But then there's some people, they don't go for a few days and they have diarrhea, and they go for a few days, diarrhea.

I heard somebody say diarrhea is actually extreme constipation, it's just your body's last resort to get it out. A flush. Is that true? Yeah.

Dr. Greg Eckel: I haven't heard it said that way. There is a lot of people that will have alternating constipation and diarrhea, three to four day cycle. I- that more in my realm and the way that I think about it is more of a, of full dysregulation of nervous system and of the microbiome, so the innervation of the gut.

So that [00:42:00] you look at hormones, the adrenal gland the sex hormones, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone, and thyroid. That is an endocrine triangle that needs to get looked at with that type of symptomatology as well as the microbiome. If we remove all of the aerobic and anaerobic bacteria of your gut, we'd have about four to seven pounds of material depending on the size of the human being, which is a little bit gross when you think about it.

"Whoa, I have a whole ecosystem in the gut." But it's also very essential for health. There's a old statement of we eat our ways to the grave with our fork. That, that piece of that diet aspect. But also, any use of antibiotics, exposures to pesticides. Glyphosate, which is in Roundup, I think that is a crime against humanity.

They still sell it in the grocery store as a weed killer that people, put on their lawns, then their pets walk through the [00:43:00] lawn and, all for this landscaped green grass without dandelions. But what we're, we're- willfully putting toxicants on, in our environment that are affecting our body.

Glyphosate affects the microbiome and detoxification pathways, which leads to all kinds of downstream health consequences. So we need to rule that out. We look at the microbiome, we look at the hormones, like I mentioned, that endocrine triangle. We're looking at cortisol. If you startle easy, you have trouble getting to sleep, staying asleep you have no...

You sleep and you wake up fatigued, or you have to take naps. Like, all of that energy production is cortisol. You should have a diurnal variation. Should go up in the morning and then decrease. So we start with detection because, again, everybody wants to know, "What can I do? What can I take? How do I help?"

It's, no, what is the lay of the land? Because it's a different path [00:44:00] forward depending on what the holes in the bottom of the bucket are for that individual

David Pasqualone: Yeah, no, that makes total sense. A- and how do you treat... a, a mechanics is the best illustration, 'cause a car doesn't have emotions, right?

Yeah. But you can't go to a mechanic and you don't even tell them, they don't diagnose it. You're like, "Hey, my car keeps wanting to stall." So "All right you need a new engine." No. Whoa whoa, you didn't even look at it yet, it might be a bad- ... spark plug. So it's diagnosis and the root cause is very important.

It could be something small, it could be something huge. Yep. But to have the proper diagnosis is massive. Yeah. So when you're seeing people with, let's say, dementia or- ... Alzheimer's, what are you seeing that's helping them today?

Dr. Greg Eckel: F- in particular, we'll run a test called it's plasmalogens. Now, I did not learn about plasmalogens in medical school 30 years ago, but the, these plasmalogens are 25% of the cell [00:45:00] wall.

There's a doc, a PhD, Dane Goodnow, wrote a book called Breaking Alzheimer's. I interviewed him on my podcast five years ago, it's called What the Health where he was talking about his then groundbreaking research showing you can increase plasmalogen levels in the blood, and it just happened that everybody that you could, was deficient in plasmalogens.

They had some cognitive decline, mild cognitive d- impairment, dementia, Alzheimer's. All 100% of the participants got better slid back towards Wellville with increasing plasmalogens in their diet. So we put that in on top of that detect phase that I just talked about. We do an EEG, an electroencephalogram, looking at the amplitude and waveform of the brain.

Oftentimes, folks with dementia, Alzheimer's, their alpha, they don't have an alpha [00:46:00] wave. It's between 8 and 11 hertz. There should be a coherent brain waveform from occipital lobe from the back to the front. It's, basically looks like a nice peak coming through every region of the brain. It's like the symphony is playing the right tune.

What we see is a flat line, disorganized structure, and low amplitude of waveform, maybe down in 4 to 8 hertz, which is definitely a sign of Alzheimer's, dementia. So we'll put in pRTMS, which is personalized repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation. It's a magnet that gives the, gives some juice or energy to the brain while then we're working on diet and nutrition and supplementation.

And then we also do- a laser activated and guided very small embryonic-like stem cell procedure that comes from the individual that's in our blood. We [00:47:00] just activate it with a patented laser. It's called a SONG laser, Strahan Ovocytus Node Generating laser. So that, that's our, one of our largest levers that we have for people.

David Pasqualone: Now, when you say you have clients from all over the world, is this something you ship to them? Is it something they buy off Amazon? Where do they get these devices?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Great question. Yeah, so I haven't figured out how to deliver a lot of that therapy through the green dot up there. We do first we do telehealth r- remote visiting, and we can get the testing done where they are to get the lay of the land, that detect phase.

And then a certain amount of those folks will qualify for coming out for a brain camp. So it's a week-long to two-week-long program here in Park City, Utah. So people fly into Salt Lake, come up to Park City. It's about 30 minutes. We have... It's a great resort town, so we've got lots of lodging. And then they're basically camped out at our clinic.

It's not an overnight camp but [00:48:00] what they... We have about four to eight hours of therapeutics every day for one to two weeks, and then we follow them. We have a coaching program to support on mindset, nutrition, and movement. And then we're following up at one month, three months, five months, seven months with retesting at that five-month mark because we want to ensure we're moving back towards Wellville.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. And then what would you say, you have people listening, like our age, they're 50 years old, they got parents in their 70s, and they're watching them deteriorate. They call you up, they start the conversation, they invest in this. What kind of success rate are you seeing?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah, so in the Par- I've got a bigger, the largest database with people with Parkinson's.

95% of our patients are reporting improvement of their quality of life. Now, that's, I'm not saying 100% cure, but they're all... Because what we're doing is we're getting an assessment of [00:49:00] the foundational root cause imbalances, and those levers, as you push on them, the body responds. And so we're getting improvement of quality of life with, which is massive

David Pasqualone: All right, and what about like dementia and Alzheimer's?

Dr. Greg Eckel: So that is, it's different for everybody. I will never close the door, and I think if they're alive, they're worth trying. What happens is it's sad, it's like, "Oh you're 70 and go get your affairs in order and we're just going to throw the towel in you, on you." The drug for Alzheimer's is Aricept.

It gives maybe two to three months quality of life, which is very hard to quantify if somebody is alive for 10, 20 years, but in vegetative state or in an Alzheimer's state, that is not the true majesty of living. And so we're looking at, and it just depends on the assessment on how steep is the incline and what we're going to [00:50:00] do.

But I... In my book, to be able to sleep well at night I want to do everything that I can for my loved ones and family, and as I mentioned earlier, we're just pretending to be separate in this reality, so that means everybody is my family. So we're caring for everybody as if they're family members.

David Pasqualone: Awesome. Now I'm going to ask you the question just for general purposes, the number one best food to eat, the number one best food, worst food to avoid. But before we get there, is there anything we missed, Dr. Gregg, between your birth and today that you want to cover? Any last-minute thoughts to share with our remarkable community?

Dr. Greg Eckel: We covered it very well. I think if I go back to my intentions for the show of what I wanted people to walk away with I want to... Let me share a story of a retired pharmacist. He was 65 years old, Chuck. He ha- he couldn't do one plus one math. He was s- stage two [00:51:00] Alzheimer's. This was a retired pharmacist that used to be able to do multiplication factors in his head.

And w- half an hour after our first brain regeneration procedure at the center, he was able to rattle off multiplication factors. One month after his week program with us his wife came in and said he got his sense of smell back." And I- I'm like, "What are you talking about?" She said, this was during COVID the dogs died, wet dog smell in the car.

She said I di- didn't bother me, and Chuck hasn't been able to smell for 15 years." But he got in and said, "Man, it smells like dirty dogs in here." And then as we progressed through after the procedure, his wife Cathy came back and just said, just in tears "I've got my husband back. He's back with the grandkids.

His sense of humor is back. He's interacting at the dinner table. I still don't give him the checkbook, but- ... we've got Chuck back." And, that [00:52:00] was... he got wheeled in a wheelchair, didn't know the date, the president, the year and really came back to life. And so i- it isn't too late.

So that's on the hope front. I want to be able to amplify people's hope. I can't give you hope, but we can amplify it. And then the second piece is I wanted people to have new possibilities, and so really looking at the treatment with sound and light- frequency. So we put people in sound baths.

You keep your clothes on, but we drop you deep into a theta, very meditative state, which is where a, a quantum theory comes into play. We're bringing that quantum reality in where a lot of possibilities and rewiring can happen when you're deeply relaxed. That's how the body reorganizes itself. If you're ev- forever in fight or flight stress response, it's hard to access the receiver.

Your [00:53:00] body and receiver soul is not open. You're retracted back into the limbic system. And so by deeply relaxing you in your spirit, that opens up your channels to receive the healing information. So that's the sound component, and then I just mentioned the light with the laser-activated and guided regenerative stem cell therapeutics where we activate with a song laser your plasma for three minutes.

Not one minute, not six minutes, but for three minutes. That gives the highest activation of these regenerative stem cell therapies that come back into your body. And so that is not Star Trek. That is happening today, so we are living at an amazing time. So thank you.

David Pasqualone: Yeah, no. Okay, I have a s- question personally- Yeah

and I'm sure it'll apply to many of our listeners. So I've been stuck in fight or flight for years- Yeah ... [00:54:00] to the point where I used to heal... I'm not joking. I had a literal tumor the size of an orange taken out of my head, okay? And I was, within three days I was out of the hospital. Yeah. And then I had a tumor removed again.

Both times I should have died. Disfigured, all this stuff. It was a three-day surgery. I was out the next day. So I used to heal incredibly fast.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Yeah.

David Pasqualone: And now it's not just because I'm 49. It's ever since this point in my life where I fought to say I had PTSD. I had PTSD. I had so many doctors- Yeah

tell me it, I gotta be honest, I got PTSD. I've been stuck in fight or flight. Yeah. A guy like me, how the hell do I get out? I just want to sleep peacefully and I want to recover- Right ... like, I want to be better than normal, but at least- Yeah ... a normal human.

Dr. Greg Eckel: So yeah, that is... And you can measure that in your heart rate variability.

There's a marker in your body to show where are you on that continuum. But a lot of times... So that's that trauma bucket. We utilize a program by Dr. Dawn Woods. [00:55:00] It's very effective. He works with the military the Boston Marathon bombing survivors, the Vegas shooting survivors. He's a very effective therapeutic.

So there are different trauma techniques where you're not having to put years in to to unwind that. There is a lot of research coming out in the VA with ketamine therapy. It's three... It's a series of three weeks, two sessions a week. But that is not just the substance, it's more the container and the integration after of life-affirming behaviors that I recommend that I've seen to be very effective.

So it, everybody, it, there's a different, root in to help with the post-traumatic stress disorder. And so it depends on what resonates best for you, but there are therapies or fast tracks that we've found. Stellate nerve block is another one that I think about as far as a [00:56:00] reset for your nervous system.

But a lot of times it's understanding that root imbalance and then making sure we can take from Technicolor those memories and put them into black and white. We don't get rid of the memories, but we get rid of the way that they run their program on your nervous system and neurophysiology. So there are, we can talk offline David, a- around the different roots to help you get back to Wellville.

But that is a massive thing for your longevity, your health span, your thriving mode, is we want you to have a very well-regulated nervous system. And that served you to this point, and now you're noticing "Hey, this thing, there's a unconscious thing running my nervous system that I've got to put this to bed."

Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. So I'll, ladies and gentlemen, if I end up working with Dr. Greg, I'll let you know how it turns out, like always, good, bad, or ugly. Yeah. And we'll see how it goes. So I'm tired of nightmares, I'm tired of being [00:57:00] tired, and I'm tired- Yeah ... of getting slow. So let's do this. Awesome. Now, going back to the brain, people are like, "Man, I got a million things going on, but I want to do something."

What's the number one food to eat, number one food to avoid?

Dr. Greg Eckel: Today I will say the bioflavonoids. You, the colorful fruits. You got blueberries, you got blackberries, raspberries, strawberries. These gotta be organic. You want one to three cups a day. Those bioflavonoids, I had a mentor. He, he founded, he was a co-founder of Bastyr University out of Seattle.

And he said, "The bioflavonoid molecule will save humanity." And at the time, I was a newbie student. I'm like, "What are you talking about?" But now, 25 years into practice, I fully understand the bioflavonoid, the concentration of antioxidants and cell signaling and how it inter- interacts with our immune [00:58:00] system.

H- high rich bioflavonoid content food, which would be those colorful berries, one of the most super foods for our brain

David Pasqualone: Awesome.

Dr. Greg Eckel: And

David Pasqualone: what's-

Dr. Greg Eckel: On the opposite side is sugar, the white death. Any types of sugar that is spiking your glucose, insulin follows. That is called diabesity of the brain.

That's basically what Alzheimer's is. A major type of Alzheimer's is unregulated sugar. So really wearing a continuous glucose monitor, see what your food choices are doing. Your blood glucose should not spike more than 20 points after a meal, and if it does, then we've got to change the order of things going in there and also your food choices.

A- and that could be simple carbohydrates, breads, pastas, potatoes, sweets, alcohol. All of those are in that high sugar content food.

David Pasqualone: Actually, I [00:59:00] am so glad you said that. That was another question I had for you that I think people need to hear. I've heard, the last three years that dementia and Alzheimer's is really just a l- n- next level diabetes.

True or false?

Dr. Greg Eckel: So there are seven varietals of Alzheimer's. So that is a main cause of Alzheimer's, but it's not the, it's not the thing. It is a big thing, though.

David Pasqualone: Okay. And then the last question to tie this all up, put the bow on it, is- When you were talking about sugar-

...

David Pasqualone: Eating those blueberries, in my mind it's black and white, polar difference.

But if you eat a handful of blueberries, that's natural sugar God made- Yeah ... I believe that process is totally different through your body than- ... getting sugar that they added to your food source.

Dr. Greg Eckel: Totally. Is that correct? Totally. Or is that incorrect? That is correct. That is correct. Yeah. The, [01:00:00] yes, there is, on one level of biochemistry, it, sugar is sugar.

However, the way that's processed, because you've got fiber and other constituents in the fruit, it's processed in a very healthy way versus just the white sugar concentrate added to food. Yeah.

David Pasqualone: Yeah. Yeah, I just... But people get so wound up on their health and they're like, "I can't eat that apple, it's got too much sugar."

I'm like, "No, that's God sugar. That's going to dissolve-" Yeah ... and give you energy and health." Yeah. It's like, you're going to eat a Snickers bar, though? That's just to- poison.

All right. Yeah. Yeah ... Dr. Eckert, it's been an honor having you here today. Thank you for coming on the show, answering so many questions.

And ladies and gentlemen reach out to Dr. Eckert and, continue the conversation. The links, as always, will be in the show notes. And again, Doc, before we end this episode, is there any other information or notes or any other closing thoughts you want to share [01:01:00] with our community before we wrap

Dr. Greg Eckel: this up?

Yeah, just words of inspiration, of listen to your heart the emperor or empress it will not guide you wrong. Get out there, dream a dream, bring more love to this environment. God bless and have, have an amazing life.

David Pasqualone: All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we love you. Thank you for being here today.

Share this episode with your friends and family so we can help as many people as possible, and we'll see you in the next episode.

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